Re: Complete n00b: adr microformat

On 11/6/07 7:57 PM, "Francois Lafortune"
<quickredfoxneuenode.com> wrote:

> A1. I would propose "locality"  for the
suburb maybe and if you must
> specify city AND suburb in different tags then I dont
see anything
> wrong with that, they are both class names and from the
xhtml
> standpoint they can be re-used. Or, you could stick the
suburb in
> with the city (which I think goes better with some
microformat
> parsers) separated by a coma unless you really need to
have them in
> separate tags. I don't see anything wrong with that but
I'm no guru.

locality is used for city in common vCard implementations. 
you could put
suburb in extended-address if you wanted to.


> A2.1. it is OK to have colons in spans but the colons
would be
> included by some parsers as being part of the content.
putting your
> colon outside the span wont add an extra space if node
right.

Correct.


> A2.2 AKA: Personal Vendetta
> 
> I hate the way microformats are going through that
whole adolescence
> phase and bringing back major disease like acute
divitus and severe
> spanitis, My personal take on this would be something
the likes of:
> 
> <address>
> <dl class="adr">
> <dt class="work">Street
Address</dt>
> <dd class="street-address">111 some
street</dd>
> <dd class="extended-address">suite
101</dd>
> <dt>City</dt>
> <dd
class="locality">Cooltown</dd>
> <dd
class="locality">Suburbia</dd>
> <dt>Postal Code</dt>
> <dd class="postal-code">H0H
0H0</dd>
> <dt>Region</dt>
> <dd class="region">OG</dd>
> <dt>Country</dt>
> <dd
class="country-name">Canada</dd>
> </dl>
> <dl class="tel">
> <dt class="type"
title="fax">Fax:</dt>
> <dd
class="value">+1-111-111-1111</dd>
> <dt class="type"
title="work">Work:</dt>
> <dd
class="value">+2-222-222-2222</dd>
> </dl>
> </address>
> 
> we have markup language people... dont be affraid to
use it!

be afraid to use it incorrectly however, as the above use of
<address> does.

<address> does not mean address.  this is a common
mistake.

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#Sho
uld_I_use_ADDRESS_for_hCards

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#Why_i
s_adr_property_necessary

homework assignment for incorrectly suggesting use of the
<address> element
and emotionally so ("hate the way microformats are
going through that whole
adolescence"):

Please (re)read the HTML 4.01 specification from beginning
to end.

 http://w3.org/TR/html401


Then follow-up with reading POSH resources:

 http://microformats
.org/wiki/posh

Thanks,

Tantek

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On 7-Nov-07, at 12:36 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>
>
>
>> A2.2 AKA: Personal Vendetta
>>
>> I hate the way microformats are going through that
whole adolescence
>> phase and bringing back major disease like acute
divitus and severe
>> spanitis, My personal take on this would be
something the likes of:
>>
>> <address>
>> <dl class="adr">
>> <dt class="work">Street
Address</dt>
>> <dd class="street-address">111 some
street</dd>
>> <dd class="extended-address">suite
101</dd>
>> <dt>City</dt>
>> <dd
class="locality">Cooltown</dd>
>> <dd
class="locality">Suburbia</dd>
>> <dt>Postal Code</dt>
>> <dd class="postal-code">H0H
0H0</dd>
>> <dt>Region</dt>
>> <dd class="region">OG</dd>
>> <dt>Country</dt>
>> <dd
class="country-name">Canada</dd>
>> </dl>
>> <dl class="tel">
>> <dt class="type"
title="fax">Fax:</dt>
>> <dd
class="value">+1-111-111-1111</dd>
>> <dt class="type"
title="work">Work:</dt>
>> <dd
class="value">+2-222-222-2222</dd>
>> </dl>
>> </address>
>>
>> we have markup language people... dont be affraid
to use it!
>
> be afraid to use it incorrectly however, as the above
use of  
> <address> does.
>

Duely noted, thanks!

> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#Sho
uld_I_use_ADDRESS_for_hCards
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#Why_i
s_adr_property_necessary
>
> homework assignment for incorrectly suggesting use of
the <address>  
> element
> and emotionally so ("hate the way microformats are
going through  
> that whole
> adolescence"):

I will do my studies! But my emotional beef is more about
seeing divs  
pop-up like it's a division party, and that sorta gets me
roughed  
up... But again, I'm no authority on the subject.... you
are. Seeing  
as you're someone I truly hold in hight regard, it would be
great to  
know your thoughts on my usage of the definition lists for
marking up  
a label => value set of data such as the adr and/or offer
a cure for  
divitus and spanitis.

> Please (re)read the HTML 4.01 specification from
beginning to end.

Beginning to end? Harsh a bit no? Ok... Will do!

>
>  http://w3.org/TR/html401

>
> Then follow-up with reading POSH resources:
>
>  http://microformats
.org/wiki/posh
>

I read that, I find the word "semantic" ambiguous
in some contexts,  
just as "tabular data" may be ambiguous to some.

> Thanks,
>

No, I thank YOU!

> Tantek
>
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