RE: uf on mobile devices WAS: A further possible solution to the "abbr" accessibility

On Jan 2, 2008 6:25 AM, Michael Smethurst
<Michael.Smethurstbbc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
> Are there any mobile browsers/extensions that recognise
microformats
> (genuine question pertinent to current work)?
>

Michael,

I think your best bet on that would be to use X2V (or the
likes) or a
JS based approach.  I know on some Trio's you can download
converted
hCards as vCards through X2V and then add the vCard to the
contacts. I
would suppose as long as your device has the ability to
download files
you would be safe in that regard. There are other phones
(yes I'm
looking at you, iPhone) that use vCards as a storage method
but only
allow you to add contacts by hand or though their own
proprietary
method. That being said I do not know of any current mobile
browser/extensions that are aware of uF.

Andrew
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> I think your best bet on that would be to use X2V (or
the likes) or a
> JS based approach.

unless you are only aiming at a relatively small number of
early adopters
forget about using javascript on phones using the browsers
they come with.
Only the latest models are likely to have much chance of
being able to use 
javascript client-side.

Quite a lot of phones in recent years appear to have some
(limited) support
for iCal/vCard ... so online conversion tools or
server-based tools may be
the only practical way to go until phones with better
browsers which include
support for stuff like javascript reach consumer pricing
levels and become
more popular.

> I know on some Trio's you can download converted
> hCards as vCards through X2V and then add the vCard to
the contacts. I
> would suppose as long as your device has the ability to
download files
> you would be safe in that regard. There are other
phones (yes I'm
> looking at you, iPhone) that use vCards as a storage
method but only
> allow you to add contacts by hand or though their own
proprietary
> method. That being said I do not know of any current
mobile

I thought the iPhone would be better than that.. but I
haven't seen one yet.

I was always somewhat dismayed at the lack of support for
transferring
contacts/events/etc in any standard formats on many mobile
devices .. I
can't see the point of having something like a calendar on
my phone if I am
expected to re-enter everything by hand .. I (and I assume
most people)
couldn't be bothered doing that, so such a calendar ends up
being nothing
more than a waste of space!




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In message <003a01c84dc1$c33582b0$116baccaCOMCEN>, Michael MD
<mdagnspraci.com> writes

>Quite a lot of phones in recent years appear to have
some (limited) support
>for iCal/vCard ... so online conversion tools or
server-based tools may be
>the only practical way to go until phones with better
browsers which include
>support for stuff like javascript reach consumer pricing
levels and become
>more popular.

A version of Opera, "Opera Mini":

        <http://www.operamini.co
m/>

is available for some mobile devices - it is both free and
good.

Perhaps the way forward is to lobby for such third-party
add-ons to
offer better features, such as uF support, and hope the
device makers
will then play catch-up with their own software.

>I thought the iPhone would be better than that.. but I
haven't seen one yet.

>From the reviews I've read, I'm not surprised.

>I was always somewhat dismayed at the lack of support
for transferring
>contacts/events/etc in any standard formats on many
mobile devices .. I
>can't see the point of having something like a calendar
on my phone if I am
>expected to re-enter everything by hand .. I (and I
assume most people)
>couldn't be bothered doing that, so such a calendar ends
up being nothing
>more than a waste of space!

I can't even copy plain text from web pages using the native
browser on
my Nokia N95; nor for that matter, with Opera Mini - though
I have more
confidence in the ability being added to the latter.

I do, though, synch my calendar with Outlook's calendar,
which I use on
my desktop PC (and could also synch it with my Lotus Notes'
calendar, at
work, except all my colleagues have access to that..!)

-- 
Andy Mabbett
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On Jan 3, 2008 12:33 PM, Andy Mabbett <andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
> In message <003a01c84dc1$c33582b0$116baccaCOMCEN>, Michael MD
> <mdagnspraci.com> writes
> I can't even copy plain text from web pages using the
native browser on
> my Nokia N95; nor for that matter, with Opera Mini -
though I have more
> confidence in the ability being added to the latter.

Lack of cut+paste is indeed an annoyance with the N95.  The
good news
is that it can handle most vCards or iCals correctly, if
delieverd
over HTTP.

-Ciaran McNulty
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