Re: hCard: url and tel

Andy Mabbett wrote:
>
> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that labelled
> each telephone number as "work"?
>
> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that included
> the managers' home numbers?
>
>   
In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a
phone number 
not being a work number when both a person's formatted name
and 
organization name were present?

So, to avoid the meta discussion and go back to Kat's
specific problem 
(she wants to specify a phone as work but without the
content containing 
"work" or any of its abbreviations), maybe
something that would work 
would be to have an implied 'work' tel type when a fn and an
org that 
are both present and a tel type is not present. I believe we
could have 
an implied 'voice' type in this case as well.

Sorry in advance if this idea has already been
proposed/discussed.

Guillaume
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On 1/7/08 5:19 PM, "Guillaume Lebleu" <glbrixlogic.com> wrote:

> to avoid the meta discussion and go back to Kat's
specific problem
> (she wants to specify a phone as work but without the
content containing
> "work" or any of its abbreviations), maybe
something that would work
> would be to have an implied 'work' tel type when a fn
and an org that
> are both present and a tel type is not present. I
believe we could have
> an implied 'voice' type in this case as well.
> 
> Sorry in advance if this idea has already been
proposed/discussed.

Hi Guillaume,

"voice" in fact is already default value of the
type sub-property for tel:

http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard#adr_tel_email_types


Perhaps you could document your brainstorm for implied
'work' tel type when
fn and org are present (and the same? is this for
organization hCards only?)
on the hCard brainstorming page?

 http
://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-brainstorming

Citations of URLs of real world examples that demonstrate
this use case
would help in consideration.

Thanks,

Tantek

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Guillaume Lebleu wrote:
> Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that labelled
>> each telephone number as "work"?
>>
>> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that included
>> the managers' home numbers?
>>
>>   
> In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see
a phone number 
> not being a work number when both a person's formatted
name and 
> organization name were present?
> 
> So, to avoid the meta discussion and go back to Kat's
specific problem 
> (she wants to specify a phone as work but without the
content containing 
> "work" or any of its abbreviations), maybe
something that would work 
> would be to have an implied 'work' tel type when a fn
and an org that 
> are both present and a tel type is not present. I
believe we could have 
> an implied 'voice' type in this case as well.
> 
> Sorry in advance if this idea has already been
proposed/discussed.
>

Awesome and Brilliant.

Thanks Guillaume and Tantek! )

Kat

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In message <4782CF95.10307brixlogic.com>,
Guillaume Lebleu 
<glbrixlogic.com> writes

>Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that labelled
>> each telephone number as "work"?
>>
>> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that included
>> the managers' home numbers?
>>
>>
>In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a
phone number 
>not being a work number when both a person's formatted
name and 
>organization name were present?

Today.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
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In message <4782CF95.10307brixlogic.com>,
Guillaume Lebleu 
<glbrixlogic.com> writes

>Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that labelled
>> each telephone number as "work"?
>>
>> When did you last see a listing of, say, Pizza
restaurants that included
>> the managers' home numbers?
>>
>>
>In that same vein, we could ask: when did you last see a
phone number 
>not being a work number when both a person's formatted
name and 
>organization name were present?

Today - and nearly every time I look at a contact page about
someone who 
does voluntary work.

> maybe something that would work  would be to have an
implied 'work' 
>tel type when a fn and an org that  are both present and
a tel type is 
>not present.

The same thought occurred to me a few hours ago, but I soon
realised 
that it would add semantic meaning, incorrectly, to a number
of existing 
hCards.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
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