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Hcard - marking up sms short codes
user name
2008-01-08 03:29:34
Hello!

I'm looking into marking up contact details for tv and radio
programmes

Typically they have a telephone number, an email address,
possibly a fax
number and often a sms short code

Is there a preferred way to mark-up the sms short code?


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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
country flaguser name
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2008-01-08 03:46:17
On Tue, January 8, 2008 09:29, Michael Smethurst wrote:


> I'm looking into marking up contact details for tv and
radio programmes
>
>
> Typically they have a telephone number, an email
address, possibly a fax
> number and often a sms short code
>
> Is there a preferred way to mark-up the sms short
code?

Good pint. The nearest at the meont is
"type=cell", but such numebrs
usually canot be dialled for a voice acall, soa seaprte type
woudl make
sense.

I;ve added the issue here:



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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
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United Kingdom
2008-01-08 03:48:42
On Tue, January 8, 2008 09:29, Michael Smethurst wrote:

> I'm looking into marking up contact details for tv and
radio programmes
>
>
> Typically they have a telephone number, an email
address, possibly a fax
> number and often a sms short code
>
> Is there a preferred way to mark-up the sms short
code?

Good point. The nearest at the moment is
"type=cell", but since such
numbers usually cannot be dialled for voice calls, that's
not really
appropriate.

I've added the issue here:

  <http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-s
uggestions#3.3.1_TEL_Type_Definition>

and will raise it with the group being formed to look at
revising vCard.

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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
country flaguser name
Austria
2008-01-08 05:08:30
Andy Mabbett wrote:
> I've added the issue here:
> 
>   <http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-s
uggestions#3.3.1_TEL_Type_Definition>
> 
> and will raise it with the group being formed to look
at revising vCard.

Hi,

it might be a good idea to look at the proposed registry for
"tel:" URI 
parameters (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-reg-04
). 
Especially the "phone-context" URI parameter 
(http://tools.ietf.
org/html/rfc3966) could prove to be useful in such 
cases, since it tries to solve a similar problem.

hope that helps,

Alex
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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
country flaguser name
United Kingdom
2008-01-08 05:30:03
On Tue, January 8, 2008 11:08, Alex Mayrhofer wrote:
> Andy Mabbett wrote:
>
>> I've added the issue here:
>>
>>
>> <http://microformats.org/wiki/vcard-suggest
ions#3.3.1_TEL_Type_Definiti
>> on>

> it might be a good idea to look at the proposed
registry for "tel:" URI
> parameters (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-iptel-tel-reg-04
).
> Especially the "phone-context" URI parameter
> (http://tools.ietf.
org/html/rfc3966)

Thank you. I've added that to the above page.

(Also: apologies, to everyone, for the earlier,
part-finished e-mail.)

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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
user name
2008-01-08 13:13:56
On 08/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <andypigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:
> Good point. The nearest at the moment is
"type=cell", but since such
> numbers usually cannot be dialled for voice calls,
that's not really

I don't understand this.  Why can't type=cell be dialled for
voice calls?
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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
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United Kingdom
2008-01-08 13:26:07
On 8 Jan 2008, at 19:13, Philip Tellis wrote:

> On 08/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <andypigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>> Good point. The nearest at the moment is
"type=cell", but since such
>> numbers usually cannot be dialled for voice calls,
that's not really
>
> I don't understand this.  Why can't type=cell be
dialled for voice  
> calls?
>
I think the problem is that they can, but SMS short numbers
can't.

Jim

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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
user name
2008-01-08 13:46:13
On 08/01/2008, Jim O'Donnell <jimeatyourgreens.org.uk>
wrote:
>
> > I don't understand this.  Why can't type=cell be
dialled for voice
> > calls?
> >
> I think the problem is that they can, but SMS short
numbers can't.

so should there be a way to distinguish voice enabled
numbers from SMS
only numbers and data only numbers?

This would be similar to the difference between a telephone
and FAX or
modem number.  They're both telephone numbers, just that one
of them
is connected to a telephone transceiver, while the other is
connected
to a FAX machine or a PC.
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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
user name
2008-01-08 18:31:54
On 08/01/2008, Guillaume Lebleu <glbrixlogic.com> wrote:

> Adding a TEL TYPE value 'sms' seems to be a viable
possible option. It
> is just another "service" available  the
phone number, just like voice,
> fax, etc.

so what we're looking at, is really two axes... one is the
service
running at the other end of a telephone number (voice, sms,
fax,
data), and the second is the location of this service (home,
office,
mobile).
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Re: Hcard - marking up sms short codes
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United Kingdom
2008-01-08 19:33:00
In message
<2e95f9b80801081631l5828c4ffp4c3d68c500eb0ff4mail.gmail.com>, Philip
Tellis <philip.tellisgmail.com> writes

>On 08/01/2008, Guillaume Lebleu <glbrixlogic.com> wrote:
>
>> Adding a TEL TYPE value 'sms' seems to be a viable
possible option. It
>> is just another "service" available  the
phone number, just like voice,
>> fax, etc.
>
>so what we're looking at, is really two axes... one is
the service
>running at the other end of a telephone number (voice,
sms, fax, data),
>and the second is the location of this service (home,
office, mobile).

Perhaps, but I'd slice it three ways and add more:

   service:

        voice, sms, fax, data, textphone, freephone

   connection:

        landline, mobile

        (though even then landline vs. mobile can be a
vague
        distinction; and is perhaps becoming increasingly
irrelevant.
        Then there's VoIP...)

   use:

        personal, work


So I can have, for instance, a:

        work-landline-fax

which is different to each of my:

        personal-mobile-[fax+voice+sms]

my:
        work-mobile-[fax+voice+sms]

my:

        work-landline-voice

and my:

        work-landline-[voice+freephone]

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