Icons of MF wiki

Was thinking...

I don't have a problem with PD for my text contributions,
but for
graphics and artwork, I feel that there should be proper
credit given
for derivative works (i.e. the microformats icons that
Wolfgang
Bartelme did). Is it possible to license artwork under a
different
license and keep it on the wiki (i.e. CC+)?

Chris

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All of the icons coming out of mozilla are likely going to
be full  
public domain, since CC attribution licenses are not
compatible with  
the mozilla.org license policy.  Also, we want to reduce any
possible  
barriers to entry for using the icons for basic types of
information  
(similar to what happened with RSS).

Unfortunately it might be awhile before we begin releasing
microformat  
icons into the public domain.  In order to maintain the
current ship  
schedule for Firefox 3, we won't be exposing microformatted
content in  
the user interface.  We will however still ship with the
microformats  
API implemented by Mike Kaply (of Operator fame), so it will
be  
considerably easier for Firefox extensions to experiment and
innovate  
with microformats.  The API that Mike landed for Firefox 3
also means  
that we will only need to worry about finishing front end
changes for  
getting microformat support into the next release.  We tend
to release  
new versions of Firefox pretty regularly, so while I'm
personally  
disappointed that Firefox 3 won't have native support in the
interface  
for detecting microformats, the next release isn't too far
over the  
horizon.

-Alex


On Jan 10, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Chris Messina wrote:

> Was thinking...
>
> I don't have a problem with PD for my text
contributions, but for
> graphics and artwork, I feel that there should be
proper credit given
> for derivative works (i.e. the microformats icons that
Wolfgang
> Bartelme did). Is it possible to license artwork under
a different
> license and keep it on the wiki (i.e. CC+)?
>
> Chris
>
> -- 
> Chris Messina
> Citizen-Participant &
>  Open Source Advocate-at-Large
> Work: http://citizenagency.com

> Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog

> Cell: 412.225.1051
> IM: factoryjoe
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On Thu, January 10, 2008 15:57, Chris Messina wrote:

> Was thinking...

Always sensible 

> for
> graphics and artwork, I feel that there should be
proper credit given for
> derivative works (i.e. the microformats icons that
Wolfgang Bartelme did).
> Is it possible to license artwork under a different
> license and keep it on the wiki (i.e. CC+)?

If an image is hosted elsewhere, and shown on the wiki by
simply entering
its URL, as is presently the case for all those at:

     <http:/
/microformats.org/wiki/icons#General>

is PD required?

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On Thu, January 10, 2008 16:48, Alex Faaborg wrote:


> In order to maintain the current ship schedule for
Firefox 3,
> we won't be exposing microformatted content in the user
interface.

Much as I'm keen to have FF3, that's a shame.

> we will only need to worry about finishing front end
changes for getting
> microformat support into the next release.

By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some
such) or 4.0?

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> By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some
such) or 4.0?

The next major release (point releases are primarily used
for security  
updates).  In general we try to do a release every 12
months, but  
since 3 has turned into a longer cycle (starting to look
like 16-17  
months) and focused on a lot of backed changes, the next
release may  
potentially be a shorter cycle and be more about front end
changes.   
However, that plan hasn't been formalized yet.  Since we are
 
completely focused on 3 right now, we don't have an
estimated schedule  
of exactly when we would like to ship 4.0

-Alex



On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:

> On Thu, January 10, 2008 16:48, Alex Faaborg wrote:
>
>
>> In order to maintain the current ship schedule for
Firefox 3,
>> we won't be exposing microformatted content in the
user interface.
>
> Much as I'm keen to have FF3, that's a shame.
>
>> we will only need to worry about finishing front
end changes for  
>> getting
>> microformat support into the next release.
>
> By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or some
such) or 4.0?
>
> -- 
> Andy Mabbett
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I agree that it's a bit disappointing not to have
microformats exposed
in the UI... I guess it's more important to have a robust
and easy to
extend API than a fancy UI. I just wish we could have both.
:(

No worries. Great work, nonetheless.

Also, I apologize for my possible ignorance, but will this
API be
accessible only to Add-ons or will any page have access to
it?

Cheers,
André Luís

On Jan 10, 2008 6:03 PM, Alex Faaborg <faaborgmozilla.com> wrote:
> > By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or
some such) or 4.0?
>
> The next major release (point releases are primarily
used for security
> updates).  In general we try to do a release every 12
months, but
> since 3 has turned into a longer cycle (starting to
look like 16-17
> months) and focused on a lot of backed changes, the
next release may
> potentially be a shorter cycle and be more about front
end changes.
> However, that plan hasn't been formalized yet.  Since
we are
> completely focused on 3 right now, we don't have an
estimated schedule
> of exactly when we would like to ship 4.0
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>
> > On Thu, January 10, 2008 16:48, Alex Faaborg
wrote:
> >
> >
> >> In order to maintain the current ship schedule
for Firefox 3,
> >> we won't be exposing microformatted content in
the user interface.
> >
> > Much as I'm keen to have FF3, that's a shame.
> >
> >> we will only need to worry about finishing
front end changes for
> >> getting
> >> microformat support into the next release.
> >
> > By "next release", do you mean 3.0.1 (or
some such) or 4.0?
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > ** via webmail **
> >
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