microformats and privacy

What is the response to the privacy argument? As a carefree
technophile 
I'm happy publishing personal info on the web. But when
you're trying to 
convince a major social network to add semantics that makes
their users 
personal information easier to harvest and possibly abuse.
Is there any 
answer?

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Obviously.... doesn't publish any information to the web
that you want private.

For example.... facebook asks you for your phone number...
so it can
show it to others... but you don't have to give it that
info!

Microformats will help "expose" the information
you are willing to put
out there.  (If you want something private... then don't
"give it
out".)

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On Feb 9, 2008 10:22 AM, Thom Shannon <thomts0.com> wrote:
> What is the response to the privacy argument? As a
carefree technophile
> I'm happy publishing personal info on the web. But when
you're trying to
> convince a major social network to add semantics that
makes their users
> personal information easier to harvest and possibly
abuse. Is there any
> answer?
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/flickrideas/disc
uss/72157603869809336/
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Thom Shannon wrote:
> What is the response to the privacy argument? As a
carefree 
> technophile I'm happy publishing personal info on the
web. But when 
> you're trying to convince a major social network to add
semantics that 
> makes their users personal information easier to
harvest and possibly 
> abuse. Is there any answer?
>
Thom,

Last year, I brought up the idea of something I named
"hprivacy" and 
presented a very primitive hprivacy html proxy filter
prototype with 
three groups: pro, family, friends and public. See 
http://microformats.org/discuss/
mail/microformats-discuss/2007-April/009264.html
This is a tiny prototype that is not integrated with a
tagged social 
graph, so for now, I simulate the filtering by passing the
group in the 
URL. But you'll get the idea.

Some links have moved:
http://
lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php (what the public
sees)
http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php?group=fa
mily (what a 
family member would see)
http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php?group=f
riends
http://lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/index.php?group=pro

See the markup: http:/
/lebleu.org/projects/hprivacy/hcard.html 
(obviously, in real implementation, this would be pulled
from a 
non-public folder)

There didn't seem to be much interest on this list. Maybe
because it's 
not so much about data formats and/or because it's about
marking up 
content that is not public to anyone (microformats seems to
have a bias 
toward public content).

Let me know what you think.

Also, someone helped me design a cool logo: http://hprivacy.org

Guillaume
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>
> Last year, I brought up the idea of something I named
"hprivacy"

Nice idea, if there was some way to integrate it with oAuth
so you could 
give the proxy permission to access that data in a standard
way that 
could work really well. The only problem is it would take a
fair bit of 
work for the publisher to implement, but I don't think
there's any 
obvious way around that.

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