rel="nsfw"

Hi all,

I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop that
linked to 
"not-safe-for-work" sites every now and then. Made
me wonder if we could 
use a microformat that indicates "non-suitable for
work" links and the 
likes? I could imagine a FF plugin that recognizes page
elements tagged 
as nsfw and changes their display to none or something like
that when 
you are at work. Could also use nsfc (for children). Google
could crawl 
this and protect my unborn kids. What do you think? Useful?

http:/
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work

Cheers, Gordon
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Hello Gordon,

We had a discussion about this quite a while ago.  (Nothing
actionable
really come out of it though, if I remember correctly.)

You may want to search the Microformats mailing list for it.
 (Since
it is quite relevant.)


One thing though... having rel="nsfw" probably
isn't the correct way
to "mark" that, since "rel" has a very
specific semantic meaning.
(But that's just a detail.  Maybe "class" would be
more appropriate.)

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On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Gordon Oheim <gordononlinehome.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop
that linked to "not-safe-for-work" sites every now
and then. Made me wonder if we could use a microformat that
indicates "non-suitable for work" links and the
likes? I could imagine a FF plugin that recognizes page
elements tagged as nsfw and changes their display to none or
something like that when you are at work. Could also use
nsfc (for children). Google could crawl this and protect my
unborn kids. What do you think? Useful?
>
> http:/
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work
>
> Cheers, Gordon
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Gordon Oheim wrote:
> I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop
that linked to
> "not-safe-for-work" sites every now and then.
Made me wonder if we could
> use a microformat that indicates "non-suitable for
work" links and the
> likes? I could imagine a FF plugin that recognizes page
elements tagged
> as nsfw and changes their display to none or something
like that when
> you are at work. Could also use nsfc (for children).
Google could crawl
> this and protect my unborn kids. What do you think?
Useful?

I certainly think that this is a very useful concept and
merits further
discussion on microformats-dev.

-- manu

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On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Gordon Oheim <gordononlinehome.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>  I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop
that linked to
> "not-safe-for-work" sites every now and then.
Made me wonder if we could use
> a microformat that indicates "non-suitable for
work" links and the likes? I
> could imagine a FF plugin that recognizes page elements
tagged as nsfw and
> changes their display to none or something like that
when you are at work.
> Could also use nsfc (for children). Google could crawl
this and protect my
> unborn kids. What do you think? Useful?
>
>  http:/
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work
>

This has been discussed before, and there was a consensus
against
pushing it through the microformats process.

Instead, I've started up an 'unofficial' format that uses
the W3C's
GRDDL profile specification to markup links which are not
safe for
work. See:
http://tommorris.o
rg/profiles/nsfw

You shouldn't rely on a class name to protect children,
though. It's
not designed for that. No amount of semantic markup (or
indeed any
software mechanism) substitutes for parental responsibility.
What NSFW
is designed for is more so that you can have links marked in
such a
way that you might have a common interface element or
scripted
behaviour added to the page that warns you not to click on
an NSFW
link (on my site, I'm using a bold, red warning that's
placed using
generated content, although having recently started doing
jQuery, I
may change it to a little confirmation box).

Yours,

-- 
Tom Morris
http://tommorris.org/
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Tom Morris schrieb:
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Gordon Oheim
<gordononlinehome.de> wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  I was just reading a blog about bad use of
Photoshop that linked to
>> "not-safe-for-work" sites every now and
then. Made me wonder if we could use
>> a microformat that indicates "non-suitable for
work" links and the likes? I
>> could imagine a FF plugin that recognizes page
elements tagged as nsfw and
>> changes their display to none or something like
that when you are at work.
>> Could also use nsfc (for children). Google could
crawl this and protect my
>> unborn kids. What do you think? Useful?
>>
>>  http:/
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_safe_for_work
>>
>>     
>
> This has been discussed before, and there was a
consensus against
> pushing it through the microformats process.
>
> Instead, I've started up an 'unofficial' format that
uses the W3C's
> GRDDL profile specification to markup links which are
not safe for
> work. See:
> http://tommorris.o
rg/profiles/nsfw
>
> You shouldn't rely on a class name to protect children,
though. It's
> not designed for that. No amount of semantic markup (or
indeed any
> software mechanism) substitutes for parental
responsibility. What NSFW
> is designed for is more so that you can have links
marked in such a
> way that you might have a common interface element or
scripted
> behaviour added to the page that warns you not to click
on an NSFW
> link (on my site, I'm using a bold, red warning that's
placed using
> generated content, although having recently started
doing jQuery, I
> may change it to a little confirmation box).
>
> Yours,
>
>   
I see. I have to read up on this.
Thanks for all the replies 
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On May 6, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Gordon Oheim wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop
that linked to  
> "not-safe-for-work" sites every now and then.
Made me wonder if we  
> could use a microformat that indicates
"non-suitable for work" links  
> and the likes? I could imagine a FF plugin that
recognizes page  
> elements tagged as nsfw and changes their display to
none or  
> something like that when you are at work. Could also
use nsfc (for  
> children). Google could crawl this and protect my
unborn kids. What  
> do you think? Useful?


Hi Gordon,

This would be a new microformat, so I'm moving the
discussion to the - 
new list.

http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-
new/

The idea of rel-nsfw has come up several times previously. 
I'd  
encourage everyone who is interested to review the previous
discussion  
first, so we can avoid repeating it:

http://www.mail-archive.c
om/search?q=nsfw&l=microformats-discuss%40microformats.o
rg

Peace,
Scott

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On May 6, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Gordon Oheim wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was just reading a blog about bad use of Photoshop
that linked to  
> "not-safe-for-work" sites every now and then.
Made me wonder if we  
> could use a microformat that indicates
"non-suitable for work" links  
> and the likes? I could imagine a FF plugin that
recognizes page  
> elements tagged as nsfw and changes their display to
none or  
> something like that when you are at work. Could also
use nsfc (for  
> children). Google could crawl this and protect my
unborn kids. What  
> do you think? Useful?

As Charles also mentioned, there's been discussion of this
on the  
mailing list before. The short story is this: everyone's
work is  
different (I've actually had work were I *had* to look at at
stuff  
which would be NSFW for most), so it wouldn't be very useful
to try an  
encode a single standard.

If you still want to capture the semantic of "I think
this is NSFW"  
you could use xFolk or hReview and tag the link as 'nsfw'.

-ryan
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