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FW: New microformats test-suite idea
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United Kingdom
2008-05-07 05:39:16
As the dev list does not seem to be working at the moment,
reposted
here.

Just added Operator to testrunner, but you have to use
Firefox.
> If you go to ht
tp://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcard/1.0/hcard1.htm and
press Alt X you can see a working demonstration of the
testrunner.

Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Jones 
Sent: 03 May 2008 12:11
To: 'microformats-devmicroformats.org'
Subject: New microformats test-suite idea

Hi all

I have been working on a concept for a new microformats
test-suite. I
need a comprehensive test-suite before I can move the
development of
UfXtract forward. Rather than just build something in
isolation I
thought it would be nice to find a way to share this work
with the
community. 

I have written two POSH patterns "testsuite" and 
"testfixture".  They
follow the principles of microformats design:
*	They are self-describing and created with HTML ,with no
hidden
metadata
*	Building a test should be easy even for those who are
HTML
authors 
*	They are not linked to any one programming language and
should
be easy to share
*	They allow for the creation of an in-browser Testrunner

For example go to http://ufxtr
act.com/testsuite/hcard/1.0/

The earliest tests for hcard used vcards to describe the
expected
output. As the community has moved forward it has designed
microformats
which are independent of external specification. So this
test-suite is
designed around the concept of a standardised data
structure.  In this
case, expressed in JSON, but they could be converted into
XPaths to test
XML or other languages.

I have started to build a small console app, which will
spider the HTML
and create NUnit/C# class files for my build tests. Although
this is
specific to my own parsers development, it should be easy to
do the same
for other programming languages and projects.

Parsing "testsuite" and  "testfixture".
I have already setup UfXtract to parse these patterns into
JSON/XML. It
would not take much for other microformats parser developers
to
construct profiles for these POSH patterns.  
Here is an example of the output.
http://lab.backnetwork.com/ufXtract/?url
=http%3A%2F%2Fufxtract.com%2Ftes
tsuite%2Fhcard%2F1.0%2Fhcard1.htm&format=test-fixture&am
p;output=json


The Testrunner

If you go to ht
tp://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcard/1.0/hcard1.htm and
press Alt X you can see a working demonstration of the
testrunner.
   
I have observed that most parser developers are using
comparative
testing as their main tool to quickly understand how the
complex rules
and optimizations are applied. So I have built a JavaScript
Testrunner
which allows for simple comparative testing between
parsers.

It uses a number of techniques to standardise both access to
the parsers
API's and the JSON output. ***Please note that at this stage
the JSON
standardisation process can cause a test to be marked as
failed when it
could be judged to have passed***. Most of the current
differences in
parser output are down to whether a value is stored as
single property
or an array of properties.

At the moment the Testrunner is only working with the
testfixure , it
would not take much to extend the Testrunner to run a whole
test-suite. 

I would love to add Operator and other parsers to the
Testrunner. 

Proof of concept
This is very early proof of concept stuff. What I would like
to ask is a
number of questions before moving it forward.

*	Are people interested in the idea of shared test-suites?
*	What do you think to the approach?
*	Can you see any big issues with the concepts?
*	If you already have tests/test-suites, would you be
willing to
add them to the project?
*	Would you be interested in contributing to a project like
this?
 
Hope you like the idea.

PS: the JavaScript needs serious re-factoring; I will
simplify it soon.


Glenn Jones 







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Re: FW: New microformats test-suite idea
country flaguser name
United Kingdom
2008-05-07 08:13:43
Hi Glenn,

It doesn't seem to work (Firefox 2/mac),

Adam

On 7 May 2008, at 11:39, Glenn Jones wrote:

> As the dev list does not seem to be working at the
moment, reposted
> here.
>
> Just added Operator to testrunner, but you have to use
Firefox.
>> If you go to ht
tp://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcard/1.0/hcard1.htm and
> press Alt X you can see a working demonstration of the
testrunner.
>
> Glenn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glenn Jones
> Sent: 03 May 2008 12:11
> To: 'microformats-devmicroformats.org'
> Subject: New microformats test-suite idea
>
> Hi all
>
> I have been working on a concept for a new microformats
test-suite. I
> need a comprehensive test-suite before I can move the
development of
> UfXtract forward. Rather than just build something in
isolation I
> thought it would be nice to find a way to share this
work with the
> community.
>
> I have written two POSH patterns "testsuite"
and  "testfixture".  They
> follow the principles of microformats design:
> *	They are self-describing and created with HTML ,with
no hidden
> metadata
> *	Building a test should be easy even for those who are
HTML
> authors
> *	They are not linked to any one programming language
and should
> be easy to share
> *	They allow for the creation of an in-browser
Testrunner
>
> For example go to http://ufxtr
act.com/testsuite/hcard/1.0/
>
> The earliest tests for hcard used vcards to describe
the expected
> output. As the community has moved forward it has
designed  
> microformats
> which are independent of external specification. So
this test-suite is
> designed around the concept of a standardised data
structure.  In this
> case, expressed in JSON, but they could be converted
into XPaths to  
> test
> XML or other languages.
>
> I have started to build a small console app, which will
spider the  
> HTML
> and create NUnit/C# class files for my build tests.
Although this is
> specific to my own parsers development, it should be
easy to do the  
> same
> for other programming languages and projects.
>
> Parsing "testsuite" and 
"testfixture".
> I have already setup UfXtract to parse these patterns
into JSON/XML.  
> It
> would not take much for other microformats parser
developers to
> construct profiles for these POSH patterns.
> Here is an example of the output.
> http://lab.backnetwork.com/ufXtract/?url
=http%3A%2F%2Fufxtract.com%2Ftes
>
tsuite%2Fhcard%2F1.0%2Fhcard1.htm&format=test-fixture&am
p;output=json
>
>
> The Testrunner
>
> If you go to ht
tp://ufxtract.com/testsuite/hcard/1.0/hcard1.htm and
> press Alt X you can see a working demonstration of the
testrunner.
>
> I have observed that most parser developers are using
comparative
> testing as their main tool to quickly understand how
the complex rules
> and optimizations are applied. So I have built a
JavaScript Testrunner
> which allows for simple comparative testing between
parsers.
>
> It uses a number of techniques to standardise both
access to the  
> parsers
> API's and the JSON output. ***Please note that at this
stage the JSON
> standardisation process can cause a test to be marked
as failed when  
> it
> could be judged to have passed***. Most of the current
differences in
> parser output are down to whether a value is stored as
single property
> or an array of properties.
>
> At the moment the Testrunner is only working with the
testfixure , it
> would not take much to extend the Testrunner to run a
whole test- 
> suite.
>
> I would love to add Operator and other parsers to the
Testrunner.
>
> Proof of concept
> This is very early proof of concept stuff. What I would
like to ask  
> is a
> number of questions before moving it forward.
>
> *	Are people interested in the idea of shared
test-suites?
> *	What do you think to the approach?
> *	Can you see any big issues with the concepts?
> *	If you already have tests/test-suites, would you be
willing to
> add them to the project?
> *	Would you be interested in contributing to a project
like this?
>
> Hope you like the idea.
>
> PS: the JavaScript needs serious re-factoring; I will
simplify it  
> soon.
>
>
> Glenn Jones
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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