Quicktime & TIFF (LZW) decompressor needed to see this picture

Dear Folks,

Out of all the years I've been doing computer work, believe
it or not 
this is the first time I ran into this problem.

One user composed a paper with images on a Mac using Word. 
He emailed 
this paper to a Windows 2000 user running Office 2000.

Everything seems okay except one of the images is not there
and has a 
placeholder that says "Quicktime & TIFF (LZW)
decompressor are needed to 
see this picture"

I have not found a solution for it, except for the writer of
the paper 
to save the images into a different graphic format.

Is there a way to solve this problem on the Windows side?  I
installed 
the latest version of Quicktime on the PC and that didn't
help.

Lemme know!  Knowledge is power.


-- 
Bruce Satow
Space Physics Research Group
Space Sciences Laboratory
University of California
Berkeley, California 94720-7450
(510) 643-2348





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 From this...

http://www.google.com/search?q=+Quicktime+
+TIFF+%28LZW%29+decompressor 
+are+needed+to+see+this+picture&btnG=Search

I got this page...

http://www.thrrrust.com/~pclark/blog/2004/12
/quicktime-and-tiff-lzw- 
decompressor.html

...which has a lot of discussion about the issue.  A couple
of  
tidbits from that discussion:

''The problem is in HOW the image is inserted into
Powerpoint. Any  
image that is inserted using the menu option "Insert -
Picture - From  
File" will work on BOTH platforms. If you copy from the
Mac OS X app  
"Preview", for example, and then paste into
Powerpoint, the image  
will appear in Powerpoint, but will NOT be viewable on PC's.
I think  
the Preview application uses the TIFF LZW decompressor, and
while  
Powerpoint on Mac must be able to display this, it cannot on
PCs. ''

and:

''A Solution on the Windows-Side without need of a Mac:
1) Save PPT as Webpage
2) Search for pcz-Files
3) unpack pcz-Files (for instance with Total Commander)
4) extract PICT-Files from pcz
5) convert PICT-Files into JPG or something else (For
instance with  
IrfanView)
6) reinsert into PPT''



Good luck!

-Greg


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Hi Bruce,

I recall encountering something similar to this and I think
it had to 
do with an uninstalled option for MS Office - if so, you'd
need the 
install disk.  I know that in my case I had trouble
determining which 
additional feature was needed since it didn't match the name
in the 
error message.

I hope that's the right direction for this message...

michael

>Dear Folks,
>
>Out of all the years I've been doing computer work,
believe it or 
>not this is the first time I ran into this problem.
>
>One user composed a paper with images on a Mac using
Word.  He 
>emailed this paper to a Windows 2000 user running Office
2000.
>
>Everything seems okay except one of the images is not
there and has 
>a placeholder that says "Quicktime & TIFF (LZW)
decompressor are 
>needed to see this picture"
>
>I have not found a solution for it, except for the
writer of the 
>paper to save the images into a different graphic
format.
>
>Is there a way to solve this problem on the Windows
side?  I 
>installed the latest version of Quicktime on the PC and
that didn't 
>help.
>
>Lemme know!  Knowledge is power.
>
>
>--
>Bruce Satow
>Space Physics Research Group
>Space Sciences Laboratory
>University of California
>Berkeley, California 94720-7450
>(510) 643-2348
>
>
>
>
>
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On Jun 11, 2007, at 2:13 PM, Greg Merritt wrote:

>
> ''The problem is in HOW the image is inserted into
Powerpoint. Any  
> image that is inserted using the menu option
"Insert - Picture -  
> From File" will work on BOTH platforms. If you
copy from the Mac OS  
> X app "Preview", for example, and then paste
into Powerpoint, the  
> image will appear in Powerpoint, but will NOT be
viewable on PC's.  
> I think the Preview application uses the TIFF LZW
decompressor, and  
> while Powerpoint on Mac must be able to display this,
it cannot on  
> PCs. ''

This issue sounds related to another odd behavior I
encountered  
recently (though this was from Mac to Mac). A user was 
emailing me  
what he thought were very small jpeg images, but that were 
arriving  
in my inbox as large TIFF files. I finally nailed down what
he was  
doing. Rather than saving an image from the web  and sending
the file  
along as an attachment, he was right-clicking images in his 
browser  
and choosing "Copy Image." Then he would paste 
into Mail.app and send.

When you do it that way, Mail.app doesn't send the image
reference -  
it pastes  uncompressed  bitmap data from the clipboard into
the  
message. Result - a user thinking they're sending a 19k JPG 
actually  
ends up sending a 500k TIFF.

Seems like the PowerPoint issue is similar - an inserted 
file is  
brought  in in its  existing state.  But when  bitmap data
is pasted   
from the clipboard into the document, it's up to the app to
decide  
how  to  encode/store  it, and OS X apparently defaults to
TIFF/LZW  
for  this.

./s

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Scot Hacker, Webmaster
Graduate School of Journalism
UC Berkeley
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eley.edu



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Thanks everyone for the reply!  I found that thrrust.com
page earlier 
while surfing for the solution, but not sure if I can
explain the whys 
and hows to the researchers easily.

I will give it a try!


Bruce Satow
Space Physics Research Group
Space Sciences Laboratory
University of California
Berkeley, California 94720-7450
(510) 643-2348






Greg Merritt wrote:
>  From this...
> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=+Quicktime++TIFF+%28LZW%
29+decompressor+are+needed+to+see+this+picture&btnG=Sear
ch 
> 
> 
> I got this page...
> 
> http://www.thrrrust.com/~pc
lark/blog/2004/12/quicktime-and-tiff-lzw-decompressor.html 
> 
> 
> ...which has a lot of discussion about the issue.  A
couple of tidbits 
> from that discussion:
> 
> ''The problem is in HOW the image is inserted into
Powerpoint. Any image 
> that is inserted using the menu option "Insert -
Picture - From File" 
> will work on BOTH platforms. If you copy from the Mac
OS X app 
> "Preview", for example, and then paste into
Powerpoint, the image will 
> appear in Powerpoint, but will NOT be viewable on PC's.
I think the 
> Preview application uses the TIFF LZW decompressor, and
while Powerpoint 
> on Mac must be able to display this, it cannot on PCs.
''
> 
> and:
> 
> ''A Solution on the Windows-Side without need of a
Mac:
> 1) Save PPT as Webpage
> 2) Search for pcz-Files
> 3) unpack pcz-Files (for instance with Total
Commander)
> 4) extract PICT-Files from pcz
> 5) convert PICT-Files into JPG or something else (For
instance with 
> IrfanView)
> 6) reinsert into PPT''
> 
> 
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -Greg
> 
> 
>
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