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Retrospect vs. Outlook.pst
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United States
2007-10-04 13:16:12
We're running Retrospect v. 6.1 on an OS X server.

Some of the folks we back up use Outlook on Windows.

We recently discovered that, when running, Outlook
"locks" the  
user's .pst files.  When files are locked in this way,
nothing -- not  
even Retrospect -- is allowed to read them.

So, you guessed it:  unless Outlook is not running at the
time of a  
backup, the user's e-mail is not backed up.

EMC sells a Retrospect v. 7.5 Windows-only add-on that costs
roughly  
$500.  (Questions of cost aside, we're not running that
platform or  
version on our server.)

I've read of a number of workarounds.  They go something
like this:

1) Tell users to quit Outlook or log out at the end of the
day.
2) Create a script that runs automatically and quits Outlook
at an  
appropriate time.
3) Create a script that copies the .pst to another location
when the  
user logs in (yech).
4) Install the Microsoft Outlook Personal Folders Backup
tool, which  
will bug the user every X days to do a .pst export by hand
(ugh).

Have other Micronetters found a way to simply, cleanly,
easily  
(magically?) work through this problem?

For the short term, we're using workaround 1)...

Thanks!
-Greg


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Re: Retrospect vs. Outlook.pst
country flaguser name
United States
2007-10-05 12:26:18
Hi Greg,

I've read about people using the windows command line
function shutdown,
with a few arguments, like -f to force a shutdown, and -r to
reboot the
machine.  The trouble with this option is that this will not
save any open,
unsaved documents.  But, this is an easily scriptable way.


If you run shutdown.exe with the -I switch, you can get a
GUI box that will
let you select machines, and you can cut and paste machine
names from a text
file.  But, this would require you to manually push the
buttons.

You can script shutdown.exe - this columnist has more info
here:
http://redmondmag.com/columns/article.asp?EditorialsI
D=1385


One other way I've read is to use the winexit screen saver. 
Here's the
document:
http://support
.microsoft.com/kb/314999


Others say that you can force a logoff when logon times
expire, but this
might not be what you want:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/def
ault.asp?url=/library/en-us/gp/566.asp


~Robert




On 10/4/07 11:16 AM, "Greg Merritt"
<gmerrittberkeley.edu> wrote:

> 
> We're running Retrospect v. 6.1 on an OS X server.
> 
> Some of the folks we back up use Outlook on Windows.
> 
> We recently discovered that, when running, Outlook
"locks" the
> user's .pst files.  When files are locked in this way,
nothing -- not
> even Retrospect -- is allowed to read them.
> 
> So, you guessed it:  unless Outlook is not running at
the time of a
> backup, the user's e-mail is not backed up.
> 
> EMC sells a Retrospect v. 7.5 Windows-only add-on that
costs roughly
> $500.  (Questions of cost aside, we're not running that
platform or
> version on our server.)
> 
> I've read of a number of workarounds.  They go
something like this:
> 
> 1) Tell users to quit Outlook or log out at the end of
the day.
> 2) Create a script that runs automatically and quits
Outlook at an
> appropriate time.
> 3) Create a script that copies the .pst to another
location when the
> user logs in (yech).
> 4) Install the Microsoft Outlook Personal Folders
Backup tool, which
> will bug the user every X days to do a .pst export by
hand (ugh).
> 
> Have other Micronetters found a way to simply, cleanly,
easily
> (magically?) work through this problem?
> 
> For the short term, we're using workaround 1)...
> 
> Thanks!
> -Greg
> 
> 
>
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