idea for a new flame war

Ahem,

Those new Mac ads really suck!  They make "think
different" look like 
the words of Shakespeare.

michael


PS. If you haven't been unfortunate enough to have had some
of your most 
pleasant TV-watching interrupted by these atrocities, please
go to 
<http://www.apple.co
m/getamac/> and make sure that you have a barf bag 
handy.


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I note that they do not touch the business market.  It's
all about 
fun!  None of this serious stuff like work with applications
that 
only run on PCs.


At 04:16 PM 5/17/2006, Michael Sinatra wrote:
>Ahem,
>
>Those new Mac ads really suck!  They make "think
different" look 
>like the words of Shakespeare.
>
>michael
>
>
>PS. If you haven't been unfortunate enough to have had
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>most pleasant TV-watching interrupted by these
atrocities, please go 
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>barf bag handy.
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Ah, Michael, you must be a PC ... Does this get the war
started?

Thanks,

Bond 

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Subject: [Micronet] idea for a new flame war

Ahem,

Those new Mac ads really suck!  They make "think
different" look like the
words of Shakespeare.

michael


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No, he's a BSD box, far more stylish than PC, yet with more
edge than Mac. 

I'm a Mac/Unix, yet have to admit, the ads do suck.  I can
almost hear 
the PR flacks say "dumb it down for popular
appeal". 

Quite depressing.  That it will work is more depressing
still.  Not that 
it works, but why. 

-J

E. Bond Francisco wrote:
> Ah, Michael, you must be a PC ... Does this get the war
started?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bond 
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Behalf Of Michael Sinatra
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:17 PM
> To: Magnet; micronet-listlistlink.berkeley.edu
> Subject: [Micronet] idea for a new flame war
>
> Ahem,
>
> Those new Mac ads really suck!  They make "think
different" look like the
> words of Shakespeare.
>
> michael
>
>
> PS. If you haven't been unfortunate enough to have had
some of your most
> pleasant TV-watching interrupted by these atrocities,
please go to
> <http://www.apple.co
m/getamac/> and make sure that you have a barf bag
> handy.
>
>
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Hi all,


I think the Apple ads do some good, because many computer
users in the world
are not techs, and really don't know or care much about the
workings of the
machines.  So, while the ads might be pretty silly to us,
they do explain in
a quick, simple way what can be a really important selling
point.  People
just want things to work.

Now, if you think those ads were bad, browse these if you
can:

http://www.novell.com/vi
deo/

"Elevator" and "Flying Boy" aren't
too bad.  Although I will say that the
I.T. Guy in "Elevator" is kind of jerky.

Now, here are RedHat's pro-linux videos -

http://www.redhat
.com/truthhappens/

Nice looking, but you kind of have to understand what
open-source is to
really get the point of the commercial - I don't think
non-technical people
would get these



Here's a more anti-mac video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay
?docid=566497855712943675&q=genre:ad_promo

(What is a bit ironic is that I am writing this on a old G4
right now)

I'm waiting for some UCB IT videos!
Part 1 - for Professors & staff - "Why screaming
at your IT staff might be a
bad idea"

~Robert



On 5/18/06 9:40 AM, "Jay Bryon" <jayberkeley.edu> wrote:

> No, he's a BSD box, far more stylish than PC, yet with
more edge than Mac.
> 
> I'm a Mac/Unix, yet have to admit, the ads do suck.  I
can almost hear
> the PR flacks say "dumb it down for popular
appeal".
> 
> Quite depressing.  That it will work is more depressing
still.  Not that
> it works, but why.
> 
> -J
> 
> E. Bond Francisco wrote:
>> Ah, Michael, you must be a PC ... Does this get the
war started?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bond 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-micronet-listlists.berkeley.edu
>> [mailto:owner-micronet-listlists.berkeley.edu] On
Behalf Of Michael Sinatra
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:17 PM
>> To: Magnet; micronet-listlistlink.berkeley.edu
>> Subject: [Micronet] idea for a new flame war
>> 
>> Ahem,
>> 
>> Those new Mac ads really suck!  They make
"think different" look like the
>> words of Shakespeare.
>> 
>> michael
>> 
>> 
>> PS. If you haven't been unfortunate enough to have
had some of your most
>> pleasant TV-watching interrupted by these
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>> <http://www.apple.co
m/getamac/> and make sure that you have a barf bag
>> handy.
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Ah, but to start a flame war you need to make a *really
controversial*
statement. This is just more justification for an oversize
mute control.

Graham

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On Wed, 17 May 2006, Michael Sinatra wrote:
> Ahem,
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On May 17, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Graham Andrew Patterson wrote:
> Ah, but to start a flame war you need to make a *really
controversial*
> statement. This is just more justification for an
oversize mute  
> control.


Ah, but here you're making an assumption that one is
watching live  
and waiting around during a commercial break.

(Maybe *this* can start a flame war??)

-Greg, who prefers to watch two one-hour television shows
over the  
course of one and one-half hours...


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OK, oversize mute *and* fast-forward. I can be accomodating 


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> Ah, but here you're making an assumption that one is
watching live and 
> waiting around during a commercial break.
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> (Maybe *this* can start a flame war??)
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> -Greg, who prefers to watch two one-hour television
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I find that not watching television stops most ads dead in
their tracks.
Mike Lindsey / Law Library

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OK, oversize mute *and* fast-forward. I can be accomodating 


Graham
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> Ah, but here you're making an assumption that one is
watching live and
> waiting around during a commercial break.
>
> (Maybe *this* can start a flame war??)
>
> -Greg, who prefers to watch two one-hour television
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Oh, you're one of *those people*, eh?

http://www
.theonion.com/content/node/28694

I normally avoid watching TV (although I _do_ own one), but
you'd be 
surprised at the number and variety of muscle groups you
exercise--and 
sometimes strain--during a major reorg, like the one we're
doing here in 
IST.  The result is that I come home sore and exhausted, and
that makes 
it a bit more difficult to do my usual TV-avoiding physical
activity 
after work, namely, getting liquored-up at the local saloon.
 Hence, I 
have been watching a bit more TV lately.  However, those Mac
ads have 
done wonders--no matter how tired I am, as soon as one comes
on, I hit 
the remote, leap off the couch, and hobble down to the local
saloon.  I 
do owe Apple some thanks for helping to restore my
constitution...

michael

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> OK, oversize mute *and* fast-forward. I can be
accomodating  
> 
> Graham
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>> Ah, but here you're making an assumption that one
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>> waiting around during a commercial break.
>>
>> (Maybe *this* can start a flame war??)
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>> -Greg, who prefers to watch two one-hour television
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