The New Boards - It is very simple...

I don't support anything that will cause further
damaage....

Like many of the recent decisions at MIVA...

But I certainly cannot see how creating uet another splinter
of the
community to follow will help.

While I do not embrace the Forums, it is MIVA's choice, and
it does provide
a central place for resources.  I certainly do not think the
format is the
best way to handle it - it is at least centralized.

-Vic 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com 
> [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of 
> Bill Gilligan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: webmasterwpcomp.com; 'Leslie  Webs
Your Way'
> Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli'; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
> 
> I'll note you don't support it.
> 
> 
> =============================
> Bill Gilligan
> Gilligan On-Line
> www.gilliganonline.com
> 727-373-2536  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf 
> Of WolfPaw 
> > Computers - Miva Lists
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:24 AM
> > To: 'Bill Gilligan'; 'Leslie  Webs
Your Way'
> > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli'; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
> > 
> > I sorry to say, that while the effort is noble...
> > 
> > All you are going to accomplish is splintering the
user 
> based support 
> > further.
> > 
> > Vic Vega,
> > WolfPaw Computers
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> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
> > > Gilligan
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:18 AM
> > > To: 'Leslie  Webs Your Way'
> > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli'; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
very simple...
> > > 
> > > Did you see my earlier post - I am collecting
names, emails and 
> > > offerings of those interested.
> > > 
> > > I will get it all together, then try to come
up with a cohesive 
> > > system where someone hosts the list serv, and
others 
> promote a FREE 
> > > module that allows people to sign up from the
admin.
> > > 
> > > I have another pending project and then 2
days off to 
> busch gardens 
> > > - then back to work on that...
> > > 
> > > Interested?
> > > 
> > > Bill
> > > 
> > > =============================
> > > Bill Gilligan
> > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > 727-373-2536
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Leslie  Webs Your Way
[mailto:websyourwaygmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:08 AM
> > > > To: Bill Gilligan
> > > > Cc: R. M. Cartelli; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [m5u] RE: The New Boards -
It is very simple...
> > > > 
> > > > Hear, hear!
> > > > 
> > > > So how do we stick together?
> > > > 
> > > > Leslie
> > > > 
> > > > On 3/28/06, Bill Gilligan <billgilliganonline.com> wrote:
> > > > > Well said...
> > > > >
> > > > > =============================
> > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On
> > > Behalf Of R. M. 
> > > > > > Cartelli
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006
10:55 AM
> > > > > > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > Subject: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RE: The New Boards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is very simple...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Less convenient and less user
friendly = fewer
> > contributions =
> > > > > > less value = even fewer
contributions = more
> > frustrated users =
> > > > > > less business for Miva.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The new boards may gain some
traction if MM users a
> > > forced to that
> > > > > > location, but I cannot imagine
that they will be used
> > > as much or
> > > > > > more than the current mail
server system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Miva has nothing to loose by
keeping this very active
> > > tight-knit,
> > > > > > well-oiled, self-help,
business-generating community up and 
> > > > > > running and policing itself. 
Many companies will 
> spend their 
> > > > > > entire existence and lots of
resources trying to
> > build what we
> > > > > > already use everyday and they
will never succeed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The fact that Miva is
dismantling the infrastructure
> > > that binds a
> > > > > > highly successful user
community, which is built upon
> > > the honesty,
> > > > > > goodwill, sweat and cumulative
knowledge of their most
> > > loyal and
> > > > > > experienced users tells
something about the
> > management team and
> > > > > > mindset of this company.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With so many other cart
options on the market and more 
> > > > > > high-feature low-cost options
coming to market,
> > > disbanding (or at
> > > > > > least significantly upsetting)
the current crew Miva
> > > loyalists is
> > > > > > certainly not in Miva's
interests.  It is also not in the 
> > > > > > interests of Miva
shareholders.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will go out on a limb here
and suggest that the current
> > > > crew of Miva
> > > > > > loyalists contributing to this
list is one of 
> Miva's greatest 
> > > > > > competitive advantages.  Great
carts that adequately
> > serve the
> > > > > > purpose for many SMBs will
eventually be very similar
> > and very
> > > > > > cheap, but fanatical users
freely sharing everything
> > they know,
> > > > > > helping to build the business
of the cart creator,
> > will always
> > > > > > remain priceless.  As I see
it, Miva's business is 
> not about 
> > > > > > another easily-copied feature.
 It's about the people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, it is very simple...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Less convenient and less user
friendly = fewer 
> > > > > > contributions.................
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Onward...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rapid
> > > > 
> > > 
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