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| The New Boards - It is very simple... |

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2006-03-28 18:01:23 |
Yes, but the point is will you still get emails that are
relevant to what you need? At least in a timely fashion.
David
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of
> Terral Artis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:43 PM
> To: merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
>
> I can't belive that people are still talking about
this topic. This
> is another reason to have a forum. I will only get
email's that are
> relevant to what I need. I subscribe to a couple of
other boards
> relating to my industry, and have no problems. I think
that people
> should give the forums a chance.
>
> Just my 2 cents worth,
>
> Terral Artis
> http://cellularmountain.c
om
> Over 4500 Cellular and Wireless Accessories
> =========================================
>
> At 12:26 PM 3/28/2006 Tuesday, you wrote:
> >I never liked the idea of a
user-sponsored/controlled list
> or forum. User
> >goes away, resource goes away. Look at Viking
Coders'
> excellent user list
> >archive. I depended on it, then it stopped, and
they are
> still around! Only
> >Miva can get the users to a single location, and if
they go
> away, there's no
> >reason for the forum anyway... No offense, Bill.
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > > WolfPaw Computers - Miva Lists
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:24 PM
> > > To: 'Bill Gilligan'; 'Leslie Webs
Your Way'
> > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli'; merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
very simple...
> > >
> > > I sorry to say, that while the effort is
noble...
> > >
> > > All you are going to accomplish is
splintering the user
> based support
> > > further.
> > >
> > > Vic Vega,
> > > WolfPaw Computers
> > > MIVA Merchant Hosting Specialists
> > > "The leader of the pack in MIVA
Hosting"(sm)
> > > MIVA Standard Hosting Partner - OpenUI
Premier Partner
> > > FREE MerchantHowTo.com Basic Tutorial
Subscription with
> each hosting
> > > account!
> > > A $49 value! http://tinyurl.com/48nmu
> > > Ph: (866) WOLFPAW - www.wpcomp.com -
sales wpcomp.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:18 AM
> > > > To: 'Leslie Webs Your Way'
> > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards -
It is very simple...
> > > >
> > > > Did you see my earlier post - I am
collecting names, emails
> > > > and offerings of those interested.
> > > >
> > > > I will get it all together, then try to
come up with a
> > > > cohesive system where someone hosts the
list serv, and others
> > > > promote a FREE module that allows people
to sign up
> from the admin.
> > > >
> > > > I have another pending project and then
2 days off to busch
> > > > gardens - then back to work on that...
> > > >
> > > > Interested?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > =============================
> > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > 727-373-2536
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Leslie Webs Your Way
[mailto:websyourway gmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:08
AM
> > > > > To: Bill Gilligan
> > > > > Cc: R. M. Cartelli;
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > >
> > > > > Hear, hear!
> > > > >
> > > > > So how do we stick together?
> > > > >
> > > > > Leslie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 3/28/06, Bill Gilligan
<bill gilliganonline.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Well said...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =============================
> > > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of R. M.
> > > > > > > Cartelli
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28,
2006 10:55 AM
> > > > > > > To: merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [m5u] RE: The
New Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > RE: The New Boards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is very simple...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Less convenient and less
user friendly = fewer
> > > contributions =
> > > > > > > less value = even fewer
contributions = more
> > > frustrated users =
> > > > > > > less business for Miva.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The new boards may gain
some traction if MM users a
> > > > forced to that
> > > > > > > location, but I cannot
imagine that they will be used
> > > > as much or
> > > > > > > more than the current
mail server system.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Miva has nothing to loose
by keeping this very active
> > > > tight-knit,
> > > > > > > well-oiled, self-help,
business-generating
> community up and
> > > > > > > running and policing
itself. Many companies will
> spend their
> > > > > > > entire existence and lots
of resources trying to
> > > build what we
> > > > > > > already use everyday and
they will never succeed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fact that Miva is
dismantling the infrastructure
> > > > that binds a
> > > > > > > highly successful user
community, which is built upon
> > > > the honesty,
> > > > > > > goodwill, sweat and
cumulative knowledge of their most
> > > > loyal and
> > > > > > > experienced users tells
something about the
> > > management team and
> > > > > > > mindset of this company.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With so many other cart
options on the market and more
> > > > > > > high-feature low-cost
options coming to market,
> > > > disbanding (or at
> > > > > > > least significantly
upsetting) the current crew Miva
> > > > loyalists is
> > > > > > > certainly not in Miva's
interests. It is also not in the
> > > > > > > interests of Miva
shareholders.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will go out on a limb
here and suggest that the current
> > > > > crew of Miva
> > > > > > > loyalists contributing to
this list is one of
> Miva's greatest
> > > > > > > competitive advantages.
Great carts that adequately
> > > serve the
> > > > > > > purpose for many SMBs
will eventually be very similar
> > > and very
> > > > > > > cheap, but fanatical
users freely sharing everything
> > > they know,
> > > > > > > helping to build the
business of the cart creator,
> > > will always
> > > > > > > remain priceless. As I
see it, Miva's business
> is not about
> > > > > > > another easily-copied
feature. It's about the people.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Again, it is very
simple...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Less convenient and less
user friendly = fewer
> > > > > > >
contributions.................
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Onward...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rapid
> > > > >
> > > >
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| The New Boards - It is very simple... |

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2006-03-28 18:18:33 |
During the beta testing period - yes I was (after I pointed
out I was
having issues with receiving emails). Right now - it's
everybody who's
kicking the tires at the moment. The emails from the lists
have had
emails that were not relevant to my needs but at least I
could keep
touch with what was going on. That's why I kept requesting
something
that could notify when a new forum is created.
Keep in mind - I am not a fan of the forum idea - so I
brought up many
of the issues I didn't like and I feel that Julie and the
others at
Miva actually listened to me. I hope that the Miva Team
members
continue to provide the input that they did during the beta
period. If
not, then the forum could fail.
Leslie
On 3/28/06, David Hubbard <dhubbard dino.hostasaurus.com>
wrote:
> Yes, but the point is will you still get emails that
are
> relevant to what you need? At least in a timely
fashion.
>
> David
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > Terral Artis
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:43 PM
> > To: merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
> >
> > I can't belive that people are still talking
about this topic. This
> > is another reason to have a forum. I will only get
email's that are
> > relevant to what I need. I subscribe to a couple
of other boards
> > relating to my industry, and have no problems. I
think that people
> > should give the forums a chance.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents worth,
> >
> > Terral Artis
> > http://cellularmountain.c
om
> > Over 4500 Cellular and Wireless Accessories
> > =========================================
> >
> > At 12:26 PM 3/28/2006 Tuesday, you wrote:
> > >I never liked the idea of a
user-sponsored/controlled list
> > or forum. User
> > >goes away, resource goes away. Look at Viking
Coders'
> > excellent user list
> > >archive. I depended on it, then it stopped,
and they are
> > still around! Only
> > >Miva can get the users to a single location,
and if they go
> > away, there's no
> > >reason for the forum anyway... No offense,
Bill.
> > >
> > >Chuck
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > WolfPaw Computers - Miva Lists
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:24 PM
> > > > To: 'Bill Gilligan'; 'Leslie Webs
Your Way'
> > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards -
It is very simple...
> > > >
> > > > I sorry to say, that while the effort is
noble...
> > > >
> > > > All you are going to accomplish is
splintering the user
> > based support
> > > > further.
> > > >
> > > > Vic Vega,
> > > > WolfPaw Computers
> > > > MIVA Merchant Hosting Specialists
> > > > "The leader of the pack in MIVA
Hosting"(sm)
> > > > MIVA Standard Hosting Partner - OpenUI
Premier Partner
> > > > FREE MerchantHowTo.com Basic Tutorial
Subscription with
> > each hosting
> > > > account!
> > > > A $49 value! http://tinyurl.com/48nmu
> > > > Ph: (866) WOLFPAW - www.wpcomp.com -
sales wpcomp.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:18
AM
> > > > > To: 'Leslie Webs Your Way'
> > > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you see my earlier post - I am
collecting names, emails
> > > > > and offerings of those interested.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will get it all together, then
try to come up with a
> > > > > cohesive system where someone hosts
the list serv, and others
> > > > > promote a FREE module that allows
people to sign up
> > from the admin.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have another pending project and
then 2 days off to busch
> > > > > gardens - then back to work on
that...
> > > > >
> > > > > Interested?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > =============================
> > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Leslie Webs
Your Way [mailto:websyourway gmail.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006
11:08 AM
> > > > > > To: Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > Cc: R. M. Cartelli;
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hear, hear!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So how do we stick together?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Leslie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 3/28/06, Bill Gilligan
<bill gilliganonline.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Well said...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
=============================
> > > > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of R. M.
> > > > > > > > Cartelli
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March
28, 2006 10:55 AM
> > > > > > > > To:
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [m5u] RE:
The New Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > RE: The New Boards
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It is very simple...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Less convenient and
less user friendly = fewer
> > > > contributions =
> > > > > > > > less value = even
fewer contributions = more
> > > > frustrated users =
> > > > > > > > less business for
Miva.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The new boards may
gain some traction if MM users a
> > > > > forced to that
> > > > > > > > location, but I
cannot imagine that they will be used
> > > > > as much or
> > > > > > > > more than the
current mail server system.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Miva has nothing to
loose by keeping this very active
> > > > > tight-knit,
> > > > > > > > well-oiled,
self-help, business-generating
> > community up and
> > > > > > > > running and policing
itself. Many companies will
> > spend their
> > > > > > > > entire existence and
lots of resources trying to
> > > > build what we
> > > > > > > > already use everyday
and they will never succeed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The fact that Miva
is dismantling the infrastructure
> > > > > that binds a
> > > > > > > > highly successful
user community, which is built upon
> > > > > the honesty,
> > > > > > > > goodwill, sweat and
cumulative knowledge of their most
> > > > > loyal and
> > > > > > > > experienced users
tells something about the
> > > > management team and
> > > > > > > > mindset of this
company.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > With so many other
cart options on the market and more
> > > > > > > > high-feature
low-cost options coming to market,
> > > > > disbanding (or at
> > > > > > > > least significantly
upsetting) the current crew Miva
> > > > > loyalists is
> > > > > > > > certainly not in
Miva's interests. It is also not in the
> > > > > > > > interests of Miva
shareholders.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will go out on a
limb here and suggest that the current
> > > > > > crew of Miva
> > > > > > > > loyalists
contributing to this list is one of
> > Miva's greatest
> > > > > > > > competitive
advantages. Great carts that adequately
> > > > serve the
> > > > > > > > purpose for many
SMBs will eventually be very similar
> > > > and very
> > > > > > > > cheap, but fanatical
users freely sharing everything
> > > > they know,
> > > > > > > > helping to build the
business of the cart creator,
> > > > will always
> > > > > > > > remain priceless.
As I see it, Miva's business
> > is not about
> > > > > > > > another
easily-copied feature. It's about the people.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Again, it is very
simple...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Less convenient and
less user friendly = fewer
> > > > > > > >
contributions.................
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Onward...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Rapid
------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-------------------
FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlist miva.com
TO FIND HELP: mailto:merchant5-users-help listmgr.miva.com
TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribe listmgr.miva.com
if you need to unsubscribe a different address, send a
message to:
mailto:ezmlm listmgr.miva.com
with a subject or message body of
unsubscribe merchant5-users yourname yourdomain.com
---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
|
|
| The New Boards - It is very simple... |

|
2006-03-28 18:30:17 |
I'm just afraid that our concerns will see the same fate
our "Business
Development" pow wow did at the MIVA Conference this
past year.
Several of us were invited to chat face to face with the
corporate powers
that be to voice our concerns and suggestions on various
topics.
While the idea was well received and I personally enjoyed
the opportunity to
speak my mind, supposedly to those who made the
decisions....I was not
surprised at all that not one single thing that was
suggested or promised -
was ever followed through on or done.
The problem isnt MIVA as we know it, its FindWhat's
corporate influence that
is systematically destroying the company that Joe Austin
built.
Although, with the dawn of some upper level personnel
changes - I'm hoping
the new captain will right the ship and get it sailing in
the right
direction...regardless of the corporate pressures.
Obvsiously what has been happening in the last 3 years has
not worked, and
its clearly time to try a new direction.
Vic Vega,
WolfPaw Computers
MIVA Merchant Hosting Specialists
"The leader of the pack in MIVA Hosting"(sm)
MIVA Standard Hosting Partner - OpenUI Premier Partner
FREE MerchantHowTo.com Basic Tutorial Subscription with each
hosting
account!
A $49 value! http://tinyurl.com/48nmu
Ph: (866) WOLFPAW - www.wpcomp.com - sales wpcomp.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of
> Leslie Webs Your Way
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: David Hubbard
> Cc: merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> Subject: Re: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
>
> During the beta testing period - yes I was (after I
pointed
> out I was having issues with receiving emails). Right
now -
> it's everybody who's kicking the tires at the moment.
The
> emails from the lists have had emails that were not
relevant
> to my needs but at least I could keep touch with what
was
> going on. That's why I kept requesting something that
could
> notify when a new forum is created.
>
> Keep in mind - I am not a fan of the forum idea - so I
> brought up many of the issues I didn't like and I feel
that
> Julie and the others at Miva actually listened to me. I
hope
> that the Miva Team members continue to provide the
input that
> they did during the beta period. If not, then the forum
could fail.
>
>
> Leslie
>
> On 3/28/06, David Hubbard <dhubbard dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote:
> > Yes, but the point is will you still get emails
that are
> relevant to
> > what you need? At least in a timely fashion.
> >
> > David
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> Of Terral
> > > Artis
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:43 PM
> > > To: merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
very simple...
> > >
> > > I can't belive that people are still talking
about this
> topic. This
> > > is another reason to have a forum. I will
only get
> email's that are
> > > relevant to what I need. I subscribe to a
couple of other boards
> > > relating to my industry, and have no
problems. I think
> that people
> > > should give the forums a chance.
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents worth,
> > >
> > > Terral Artis
> > > http://cellularmountain.c
om
> > > Over 4500 Cellular and Wireless Accessories
> > > =========================================
> > >
> > > At 12:26 PM 3/28/2006 Tuesday, you wrote:
> > > >I never liked the idea of a
user-sponsored/controlled list
> > > or forum. User
> > > >goes away, resource goes away. Look at
Viking Coders'
> > > excellent user list
> > > >archive. I depended on it, then it
stopped, and they are
> > > still around! Only
> > > >Miva can get the users to a single
location, and if they go
> > > away, there's no
> > > >reason for the forum anyway... No
offense, Bill.
> > > >
> > > >Chuck
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > WolfPaw Computers - Miva Lists
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:24
PM
> > > > > To: 'Bill Gilligan'; 'Leslie
Webs Your Way'
> > > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > >
> > > > > I sorry to say, that while the
effort is noble...
> > > > >
> > > > > All you are going to accomplish is
splintering the user
> > > based support
> > > > > further.
> > > > >
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> > > > > WolfPaw Computers
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006
11:18 AM
> > > > > > To: 'Leslie Webs
Your Way'
> > > > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did you see my earlier post -
I am collecting names, emails
> > > > > > and offerings of those
interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will get it all together,
then try to come up with a
> > > > > > cohesive system where someone
hosts the list serv,
> and others
> > > > > > promote a FREE module that
allows people to sign up
> > > from the admin.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have another pending project
and then 2 days off to busch
> > > > > > gardens - then back to work on
that...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Interested?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > =============================
> > > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Leslie Webs
Your Way
> [mailto:websyourway gmail.com]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28,
2006 11:08 AM
> > > > > > > To: Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > > Cc: R. M. Cartelli;
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [m5u] RE:
The New Boards - It is
> very simple...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hear, hear!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So how do we stick
together?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Leslie
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 3/28/06, Bill Gilligan
<bill gilliganonline.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Well said...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
============================= Bill Gilligan Gilligan
> > > > > > > > On-Line
www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com] On
> > > > > > Behalf Of R. M.
> > > > > > > > > Cartelli
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday,
March 28, 2006 10:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > To:
merchant5-users listmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > > > Subject: [m5u]
RE: The New Boards - It is
> very simple...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > RE: The New
Boards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It is very
simple...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Less convenient
and less user friendly = fewer
> > > > > contributions =
> > > > > > > > > less value =
even fewer contributions = more
> > > > > frustrated users =
> > > > > > > > > less business
for Miva.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The new boards
may gain some traction if MM users a
> > > > > > forced to that
> > > > > > > > > location, but I
cannot imagine that they will be used
> > > > > > as much or
> > > > > > > > > more than the
current mail server system.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Miva has
nothing to loose by keeping this very active
> > > > > > tight-knit,
> > > > > > > > > well-oiled,
self-help, business-generating
> > > community up and
> > > > > > > > > running and
policing itself. Many companies will
> > > spend their
> > > > > > > > > entire
existence and lots of resources trying to
> > > > > build what we
> > > > > > > > > already use
everyday and they will never succeed.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The fact that
Miva is dismantling the infrastructure
> > > > > > that binds a
> > > > > > > > > highly
successful user community, which is built upon
> > > > > > the honesty,
> > > > > > > > > goodwill, sweat
and cumulative knowledge of their most
> > > > > > loyal and
> > > > > > > > > experienced
users tells something about the
> > > > > management team and
> > > > > > > > > mindset of this
company.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > With so many
other cart options on the market
> and more
> > > > > > > > > high-feature
low-cost options coming to market,
> > > > > > disbanding (or at
> > > > > > > > > least
significantly upsetting) the current crew Miva
> > > > > > loyalists is
> > > > > > > > > certainly not
in Miva's interests. It is also not in
> > > > > > > > > the interests
of Miva shareholders.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I will go out
on a limb here and suggest that the
> > > > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > crew of Miva
> > > > > > > > > loyalists
contributing to this list is one of
> > > Miva's greatest
> > > > > > > > > competitive
advantages. Great carts that adequately
> > > > > serve the
> > > > > > > > > purpose for
many SMBs will eventually be very similar
> > > > > and very
> > > > > > > > > cheap, but
fanatical users freely sharing everything
> > > > > they know,
> > > > > > > > > helping to
build the business of the cart creator,
> > > > > will always
> > > > > > > > > remain
priceless. As I see it, Miva's business
> > > is not about
> > > > > > > > > another
easily-copied feature. It's about the people.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Again, it is
very simple...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Less convenient
and less user friendly = fewer
> > > > > > > > >
contributions.................
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Onward...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Rapid
>
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