Lance and ADS have been around prior to the last 3 years.
So has eBusiness express - however, not as a developer.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of
> Bruce Golub
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:32 PM
> To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of Chuck
> > Lasker - DoublePlus
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM
> > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
>
> > Miva has never cared what their users want, nor
have they ever
> > understood what makes them competitive. From
killing off the one
> > product that propelled them to where they are by
making third party
> > modules feasable (OpenUI), to making it
>
> Third party modules existed before OpenUI.
>
>
> > difficult to make a profit selling modules
(MivaCentral's 35%
> > commission), they've already begun their decent.
How many
> new module
> > developers have entered the market in the last 2
years?
>
> Four by my count: Lance Turner, Ebusiness Express,
Avanced
> Development Solutions, and as you mentioned IDS.
>
> > One that I now of - IDS. And how many existing
developers have
> > migrated over to MM5? Three, I believe, maybe
four. So,
> Miva's already
> > missed the point. Here are their competitive
advantages:
>
> I counted 14...
>
> -Bruce Golub
> PHOSPHOR Media
> www.phosphormedia.com
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> Of R. M.
> > > Cartelli
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:55 AM
> > > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
very simple...
> > >
> > >
> > > RE: The New Boards
> > >
> > > It is very simple...
> > >
> > > Less convenient and less user friendly =
fewer
> contributions = less
> > > value = even fewer contributions = more
frustrated users = less
> > > business for Miva.
> > >
> > > The new boards may gain some traction if MM
users a
> forced to that
> > > location, but I cannot imagine that they will
be used as
> > much or more
> > > than the current mail server system.
> > >
> > > Miva has nothing to loose by keeping this
very active tight-knit,
> > > well-oiled, self-help, business-generating
community up
> and running
> > > and policing itself. Many companies will
spend their
> > entire existence
> > > and lots of resources trying to build what we
already use
> > everyday and
> > > they will never succeed.
> > >
> > > The fact that Miva is dismantling the
infrastructure that binds a
> > > highly successful user community, which is
built upon the
> honesty,
> > > goodwill, sweat and cumulative knowledge of
their most loyal and
> > > experienced users tells something about the
management team and
> > > mindset of this company.
> > >
> > > With so many other cart options on the market
and more
> high-feature
> > > low-cost options coming to market, disbanding
(or at least
> > > significantly upsetting) the current crew
Miva loyalists is
> > certainly
> > > not in Miva's interests. It is also not in
the interests of Miva
> > > shareholders.
> > >
> > > I will go out on a limb here and suggest that
the current
> > crew of Miva
> > > loyalists contributing to this list is one of
Miva's greatest
> > > competitive advantages. Great carts that
adequately serve
> > the purpose
> > > for many SMBs will eventually be very similar
and very cheap, but
> > > fanatical users freely sharing everything
they know,
> > helping to build
> > > the business of the cart creator, will always
remain
> > priceless. As I
> > > see it, Miva's business is not about another
easily-copied
> > feature.
> > > It's about the people.
> > >
> > > Again, it is very simple...
> > >
> > > Less convenient and less user friendly =
fewer
> > > contributions.................
> > >
> > > Onward...
> > >
> > > Rapid
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> Of Chuck
> > > Lasker - DoublePlus
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:54 AM
> > > To: 'Merchant5-Users'
> > > Subject: [SPAM] RE: [m5u] OT:Testing - where
is everyone?
> > >
> > > I guess all the posts are going to the forum,
which isn't
> > many. It's
> > > certainly more difficult to post there - you
gotta think
> > about which
> > > forum category to post to, go to it, click to
create a new topic,
> > > always wondering if the topic is worth a
forum post. With
> > email it's
> > > New, type email address, type subject, type
question, send.
> > Maybe it's
> > > going to take getting used to it, but I
probably won't try
> > too hard.
> > > In the mean time, we hear echos in the halls
of the empty
> room that
> > > used to house the Miva community...
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On
> Behalf Of Bill
> > > > Gilligan
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:14 AM
> > > > To: Merchant5-Users
> > > > Cc: Merchant5 - Coders
> > > > Subject: [m5u] OT:Testing - where is
everyone?
> > > >
> > > > Bueller? Bueller? Ferris Bueller?????
> > > >
> > > > Did MIVA disable the list already?
> > > >
> > > > I have received no emails from either
list since sometime late
> > > > yesterday.
> > > > Its not friday night yet is it?
> > > > Did I miss the weekend?????
> > > >
> > > > =============================
> > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > 727-373-2536
> > > >
> > > >
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