The New Boards - It is very simple...

I know Lance had modules at least 2 years ago...I attended
his class at the
2004 Miva Conference on module development.

-Vic 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com 
> [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of 
> Bruce Golub
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:54 PM
> To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf 
> Of WolfPaw 
> > Computers - Miva Lists
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:34 AM
> > To: 'Bruce Golub'; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
> > 
> > Lance and ADS have been around prior to the last 3
years.
> 
> Don't believe Lance was selling modules util the last
year or 
> so, ADS had one module....now has almost a dozen.
> 
> > So has eBusiness express - however, not as a
developer.
> 
> Yup, but the comment was about module development.
> 
>  
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> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf 
> Of Bruce 
> > > Golub
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:32 PM
> > > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
very simple...
> > > 
> > >  > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Chuck 
> > > > Lasker - DoublePlus
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM
> > > > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards -
It is very simple...
> > >  
> > > > Miva has never cared what their users
want, nor have they ever 
> > > > understood what makes them competitive.
From killing 
> off the one 
> > > > product that propelled them to where
they are by making 
> > third party 
> > > > modules feasable (OpenUI), to making it
> > > 
> > > Third party modules existed before OpenUI.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > difficult to make a profit selling
modules (MivaCentral's 35% 
> > > > commission), they've already begun
their decent. How many
> > > new module
> > > > developers have entered the market in
the last 2 years?
> > > 
> > > Four by my count: Lance Turner, Ebusiness
Express, Avanced 
> > Development 
> > > Solutions, and as you mentioned IDS.
> > > 
> > > > One that I now of - IDS. And how many
existing developers have 
> > > > migrated over to MM5? Three, I believe,
maybe four. So,
> > > Miva's already
> > > > missed the point. Here are their
competitive advantages:
> > > 
> > > I counted 14...
> > > 
> > > -Bruce Golub
> > > PHOSPHOR Media
> > > www.phosphormedia.com
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> > > Of R. M. 
> > > > > Cartelli
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:55
AM
> > > > > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > Subject: [m5u] RE: The New Boards -
It is very simple...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > RE: The New Boards
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is very simple...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Less convenient and less user
friendly = fewer
> > > contributions = less
> > > > > value = even fewer contributions =
more frustrated 
> users = less 
> > > > > business for Miva.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The new boards may gain some
traction if MM users a
> > > forced to that
> > > > > location, but I cannot imagine that
they will be used as
> > > > much or more
> > > > > than the current mail server
system.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Miva has nothing to loose by
keeping this very active 
> > tight-knit, 
> > > > > well-oiled, self-help,
business-generating community up
> > > and running
> > > > > and policing itself.  Many
companies will spend their
> > > > entire existence
> > > > > and lots of resources trying to
build what we already use
> > > > everyday and
> > > > > they will never succeed.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The fact that Miva is dismantling
the infrastructure 
> > that binds a 
> > > > > highly successful user community,
which is built upon the
> > > honesty,
> > > > > goodwill, sweat and cumulative
knowledge of their most 
> > loyal and 
> > > > > experienced users tells something
about the 
> management team and 
> > > > > mindset of this company.
> > > > > 
> > > > > With so many other cart options on
the market and more
> > > high-feature
> > > > > low-cost options coming to market,
disbanding (or at least 
> > > > > significantly upsetting) the
current crew Miva loyalists is
> > > > certainly
> > > > > not in Miva's interests.  It is
also not in the 
> > interests of Miva 
> > > > > shareholders.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will go out on a limb here and
suggest that the current
> > > > crew of Miva
> > > > > loyalists contributing to this list
is one of Miva's greatest 
> > > > > competitive advantages.  Great
carts that adequately serve
> > > > the purpose
> > > > > for many SMBs will eventually be
very similar and very 
> > cheap, but 
> > > > > fanatical users freely sharing
everything they know,
> > > > helping to build
> > > > > the business of the cart creator,
will always remain
> > > > priceless.  As I
> > > > > see it, Miva's business is not
about another easily-copied
> > > > feature.  
> > > > > It's about the people.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, it is very simple...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Less convenient and less user
friendly = fewer 
> > > > > contributions.................
> > > > > 
> > > > > Onward...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Rapid
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Chuck
> > > > > Lasker - DoublePlus
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:54
AM
> > > > > To: 'Merchant5-Users'
> > > > > Subject: [SPAM] RE: [m5u]
OT:Testing - where is everyone?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I guess all the posts are going to
the forum, which isn't
> > > > many. It's
> > > > > certainly more difficult to post
there - you gotta think
> > > > about which
> > > > > forum category to post to, go to
it, click to create a 
> > new topic, 
> > > > > always wondering if the topic is
worth a forum post. With
> > > > email it's
> > > > > New, type email address, type
subject, type question, send. 
> > > > Maybe it's
> > > > > going to take getting used to it,
but I probably won't try
> > > > too hard. 
> > > > > In the mean time, we hear echos in
the halls of the empty
> > > room that
> > > > > used to house the Miva community...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Chuck
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Bill
> > > > > > Gilligan
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006
10:14 AM
> > > > > > To: Merchant5-Users
> > > > > > Cc: Merchant5 - Coders
> > > > > > Subject: [m5u] OT:Testing -
where is everyone?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Bueller? Bueller? Ferris
Bueller?????
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > Did MIVA disable the list
already?
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > I have received no emails from
either list since 
> > sometime late 
> > > > > > yesterday.
> > > > > > Its not friday night yet is
it? 
> > > > > > Did I miss the weekend?????
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > =============================
> > > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > > 
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