That makes more sense from you, Tom - I must be tired...
Cheers, Tom!
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom [mailto:miva tomcats.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:24 PM
> To: caldoubleplus.com; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
>
> Actually, it's called tongue in cheek. ;) Just having
a bit
> of fun in the
> twilight of the list...
>
> Tom
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:05 PM
> > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is very
simple...
> >
> > It's called building a community, Tom. It's what
causes us to
> > know each other, know if we want to do business
with each
> > other. It's how we build relationships that often
turn into
> > business relationships that help everyone. Most of
us work
> > alone, often in our homes, and this is like
conversation
> > between coworkers at an office. Sports, whining
about
> > corporate, jokes, etc. - all part of what friends
and
> > colleagues talk about, just this time it's on a
mail list.
> > The delete key is always nearby and easy to press
for those
> > not interested. If all this list was was technical
answers to
> > questions, it would have died years ago.
> >
> > But that's my opinion - and it doesn't matter
now! All I know
> > is, on the forum, a thread got taken into the
direction of
> > sports already, and it was harder for me to sift
through than
> > when I use the delete key...
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:32 PM
> > > To: 'Terral Artis'; merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
very simple...
> > >
> > > Yes, I agree. My needs are what the forums
are all about.
> > All of the
> > > sundry unrelated threads I see here are
pointless and serve
> > merely to
> > > dilute messages that may be useful to me. If
I wanted to
> > hear all of
> > > the noisy rabble that appears on the list, I
would ask for
> > it. Life is
> > > too short to waste time on pointless issues
that have no
> > bearing on my
> > > needs.
> > >
> > > Just incredible what these so-called
"listies" will waste hours
> > > discussing.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> > Of Terral
> > > > Artis
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:43 AM
> > > > To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New Boards -
It is very simple...
> > > >
> > > > I can't belive that people are still
talking about this
> > topic. This
> > > > is another reason to have a forum. I
will only get
> > email's that are
> > > > relevant to what I need. I subscribe to
a couple of
> other boards
> > > > relating to my industry, and have no
problems. I think
> > that people
> > > > should give the forums a chance.
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents worth,
> > > >
> > > > Terral Artis
> > > > http://cellularmountain.c
om
> > > > Over 4500 Cellular and Wireless
Accessories
> > > >
=========================================
> > > >
> > > > At 12:26 PM 3/28/2006 Tuesday, you
wrote:
> > > > >I never liked the idea of a
user-sponsored/controlled list
> > > or forum.
> > > > >User goes away, resource goes away.
Look at Viking Coders'
> > > excellent
> > > > >user list archive. I depended on it,
then it stopped,
> > and they are
> > > > >still around! Only Miva can get the
users to a single
> > > > location, and if
> > > > >they go away, there's no reason for
the forum anyway... No
> > > > offense, Bill.
> > > > >
> > > > >Chuck
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of WolfPaw
> > > > > > Computers - Miva Lists
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006
12:24 PM
> > > > > > To: 'Bill Gilligan';
'Leslie Webs Your Way'
> > > > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE: The New
Boards - It is very simple...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I sorry to say, that while the
effort is noble...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All you are going to
accomplish is splintering the
> user based
> > > > > > support further.
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > WolfPaw Computers
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> the pack in
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of Bill
> > > > > > > Gilligan
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28,
2006 11:18 AM
> > > > > > > To: 'Leslie Webs
Your Way'
> > > > > > > Cc: 'R. M. Cartelli';
merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [m5u] RE:
The New Boards - It is
> very simple...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you see my earlier
post - I am collecting names,
> > > emails and
> > > > > > > offerings of those
interested.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will get it all
together, then try to come up with
> > > a cohesive
> > > > > > > system where someone
hosts the list serv, and others
> > > promote a
> > > > > > > FREE module that allows
people to sign up from the admin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have another pending
project and then 2 days
> off to busch
> > > > > > > gardens - then back to
work on that...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Interested?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
=============================
> > > > > > > Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > > Gilligan On-Line
> > > > > > > www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Leslie Webs
Your Way
> > [mailto:websyourwaygmail.com]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March
28, 2006 11:08 AM
> > > > > > > > To: Bill Gilligan
> > > > > > > > Cc: R. M. Cartelli;
merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [m5u]
RE: The New Boards - It is
> > very simple...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hear, hear!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So how do we stick
together?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Leslie
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 3/28/06, Bill
Gilligan
> <billgilliganonline.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Well said...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
============================= Bill Gilligan Gilligan
> > > > > > > > > On-Line
www.gilliganonline.com
> > > > > > > > > 727-373-2536
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From:
owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > > > >
[mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On
> > > > > > > Behalf Of R. M.
> > > > > > > > > > Cartelli
> > > > > > > > > > Sent:
Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To:
merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > > > > > > Subject:
[m5u] RE: The New Boards - It is
> > very simple...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > RE: The
New Boards
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is very
simple...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Less
convenient and less user friendly = fewer
> > > > > > contributions =
> > > > > > > > > > less value
= even fewer contributions = more
> > > > > > frustrated users =
> > > > > > > > > > less
business for Miva.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The new
boards may gain some traction if MM users a
> > > > > > > forced to that
> > > > > > > > > > location,
but I cannot imagine that they
> will be used
> > > > > > > as much or
> > > > > > > > > > more than
the current mail server system.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Miva has
nothing to loose by keeping this
> very active
> > > > > > > tight-knit,
> > > > > > > > > >
well-oiled, self-help, business-generating
> > > > community up and
> > > > > > > > > > running
and policing itself. Many companies
> > will spend
> > > > > > > > > > their
entire existence and lots of
> resources trying to
> > > > > > build what we
> > > > > > > > > > already
use everyday and they will never succeed.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The fact
that Miva is dismantling the infrastructure
> > > > > > > that binds a
> > > > > > > > > > highly
successful user community, which is
> built upon
> > > > > > > the honesty,
> > > > > > > > > > goodwill,
sweat and cumulative knowledge of
> their most
> > > > > > > loyal and
> > > > > > > > > >
experienced users tells something about the
> > > > > > management team and
> > > > > > > > > > mindset of
this company.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > With so
many other cart options on the market
> > and more
> > > > > > > > > >
high-feature low-cost options coming to market,
> > > > > > > disbanding (or at
> > > > > > > > > > least
significantly upsetting) the current crew Miva
> > > > > > > loyalists is
> > > > > > > > > > certainly
not in Miva's interests. It is also
> > > not in the
> > > > > > > > > > interests
of Miva shareholders.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I will go
out on a limb here and suggest that
> > > the current
> > > > > > > > crew of Miva
> > > > > > > > > > loyalists
contributing to this list is one
> of Miva's
> > > > > > > > > > greatest
competitive advantages. Great carts that
> > > > > > > > > > adequately
> > > > > > serve the
> > > > > > > > > > purpose
for many SMBs will eventually be
> very similar
> > > > > > and very
> > > > > > > > > > cheap, but
fanatical users freely sharing everything
> > > > > > they know,
> > > > > > > > > > helping to
build the business of the cart creator,
> > > > > > will always
> > > > > > > > > > remain
priceless. As I see it, Miva's business
> > > > is not about
> > > > > > > > > > another
easily-copied feature. It's about
> the people.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Again, it
is very simple...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Less
convenient and less user friendly = fewer
> > > > > > > > > >
contributions.................
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Onward...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Rapid
> > > > > > > >
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