OT: April Fools

Send me a Miva Tee Shirt and bill me. 

On Topic: Thanks for everyone's help!!!!!!!

Scott

At 10:37 AM 3/31/2006, Brian Bozinovich wrote:
>"The volunteers that have participated all these
years have been 
>tossed out the door and we didn't
>even get a t-shirt."
>
><mv_shamelessplug>
>We can do custom t-shirts with any picture or logo
printed on the 
>shirt in full color. Only $7.95 a
>piece, with quantity discounts provided by Bill's
superb volume 
>discount module.
></mv_shamelessplug>
>
>
>Brian Bozinovich
>GreekClothing.com LLC
>klassicgreekave.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com 
>[mailto:owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
>Of wcwadelphia.net
>Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:25 AM
>To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
>Cc: merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
>Subject: [mru] Re: [m5u] RE: [mru] Re: [m5u] OT: April
Fools
>
>Their support staff is brand new.  I can only speculate
that the 
>folks in charge feel like they have
>a better handle on how well or poor that support staff
is doing if 
>they have a forum where they can
>analyze threads (kinda like monitoring employee phone
calls).  It 
>gives them bottom to top control
>of issues and resolutions.  In a perfect world all
threads will end 
>with "problem solved" and the
>quality control folks will be able to monitor
weaknesses.
>
>I routinely ask folks to contact me through my support
log if they 
>have questions about my product.
>I can keep better control and problem resolution when it
is done 
>this way.  This is no different
>from what Miva Corp is doing.  Unfortunately it is so
inefficient 
>for the non-employee, that most of
>the support job is going to go back to Miva Corp.
>
>This just means that Miva support will need to do it
all, or most of 
>it.  The volunteers that have
>participated all these years have been tossed out the
door and we 
>didn't even get a t-shirt. :-(
>
>--
>Bill Weiland - Emporium Plus http://www.empo
riumplus.com/store.mvc
>Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, Rate This, Wait
List Mgr,
>PayPal, Gift/Wish List, Froogle data feed, Shipping
& dozens more
>Online Documentation http://www
.emporiumplus.com/tk3/v3/doc.htm
>Question http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=
SPTS
>|
>
>---- WolfPaw Computers - Miva Lists <mivalistwpcomp.com> wrote:
> > I find that rather amusing myself...especially
this statement:
> >
> > "Miva Corp wants to provide the primary
support for their 
> products, which is
> > very good.  They have paid employees to provide
that support."
> >
> > Reason being, I opened a ticket on behalf of a
customer for 
> support on a CBS
> > module and was told to contact the developer, as
they do not support third
> > party modules.
> >
> > HELLO...the developer is your new VP & General
Manager...you guys OWN the
> > module and have for a couple years now.
> >
> > Now I'm being told they only support it for
installation and use with
> > Dynamic Templates.
> >
> > HELLO again!  It's the OpenUI SuperMod...
> >
> > Someone over there needs a big damn clue about
customer and partner
> > relations.
> >
> > Vic Vega,
> > WolfPaw Computers
> > MIVA Merchant Hosting Specialists
> > "The leader of the pack in MIVA
Hosting"(sm)
> > MIVA Standard Hosting Partner - OpenUI Premier
Partner
> > FREE MerchantHowTo.com Basic Tutorial Subscription
with each hosting
> > account!
> > A $49 value! http://tinyurl.com/48nmu
> > Ph: (866) WOLFPAW - www.wpcomp.com - saleswpcomp.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > [mailto:owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of
> > > wcwadelphia.net
> > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:00 AM
> > > To: merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > Cc: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > Subject: [mru] Re: [m5u] OT: April Fools
> > >
> > > But that IS the joke.  Today the email lists
get turned off.
> > > On April Fools Day a new and improved way of
communicating
> > > with the Miva World takes over.  I'm
laughing so hard, I'm crying. :-(
> > >
> > > I've given up trying to make sense of this. 
I get an email
> > > that a new post is in the forum to a thread I
subscribed to.
> > > I link over to it and the first post is at
the top.  Then
> > > there are multiple pages of posts.  The
problem is, I have
> > > read almost all of them so I have to scan
through each again
> > > and again to see where I left off.  Real fun
on a 14K cell
> > > phone connection.  Had this been the email
list, the only
> > > thing I would have seen is the new emails. 
Once the delete
> > > key is hit, I don't see that email response
again unless I
> > > look in the trash folder.  No reading the
same text over and over.
> > >
> > > There must be a strong ulterior motive for
this action as it
> > > is far less efficient.  As I see it, Miva
Corp wants to
> > > provide the primary support for their
products, which is very
> > > good.  They have paid employees to provide
that support.  So
> > > this channels inquiries into the support
system so they can
> > > get what they paid for.  A competing user
list would splinter
> > > the questions and maybe provide completely
divergent
> > > responses.  Miva welcomes outsiders to make
an occassional
> > > post, but they know this herculean effort
will die out.  Even
> > > if I had the time to scan each thread over
and over, I don't
> > > believe in inefficiency.  Miva support knows
where 3rd party
> > > module solutions are available, so they will
send folks to
> > > mivacentral.com.  Miva will provide timely
responses and all
> > > will be well.  Now I'm smiling. 
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bill Weiland - Emporium Plus http://www.empo
riumplus.com/store.mvc
> > > Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, Rate
This, Wait List
> > > Mgr, PayPal, Gift/Wish List, Froogle data
feed, Shipping &
> > > dozens more Online Documentation
> > > http://www
.emporiumplus.com/tk3/v3/doc.htm
> > > Question http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=
SPTS
> > > |
> > >
> > > ---- Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus <caldoubleplus.com> wrote:
> > > > Dang. With the list dying today, I
won't be able to do an
> > > April Fool's
> > > > joke tomorrow. And doing it on the forum
won't be much fun, because
> > > > most people won't even look at it....
> > > >
> > > > Chuck Lasker
> > > > DoublePlus New Media Marketing
> > > > caldoubleplus.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION
FOOTER ------------------- On
> > > > Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support
forums on the new message
> > > > board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> > > > All new questions should be asked on the
new forums.
> > > >
> > > > FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP:
> > > > mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> > > >    
mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> > > >   if you need to unsubscribe a different
address, send a message to:
> > > >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> > > >   with a subject or message body of
> > > >     unsubscribe merchant5-users
yournameyourdomain.com
> > > > ---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION
FOOTER -----------------
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
> > > ------------------- On Wednesday, MIVA will
open up the
> > > support forums on the new message board at:
> > > http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> > > All new questions should be asked on the new
forums.
> > >
> > > FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP:
> > > mailto:merchant-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> > >     mailto:merchant-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> > >   if you need to unsubscribe a different
address, send a message to:
> > >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> > >   with a subject or message body of
> > >     unsubscribe merchant-users yournameyourdomain.com
> > > ---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-------------------
> > On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums
on the new
> > message board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> > All new questions should be asked on the new
forums.
> >
> > FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
> > TO FIND HELP: mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> >     mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> >   if you need to unsubscribe a different address,
send a message to:
> >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> >   with a subject or message body of
> >     unsubscribe merchant5-users yournameyourdomain.com
> > ---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
> >
>
>
>------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-------------------
>On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums on
the new
>message board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
>All new questions should be asked on the new forums.
>
>FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
>TO FIND HELP: mailto:merchant-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
>TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
>     mailto:merchant-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
>   if you need to unsubscribe a different address, send
a message to:
>     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
>   with a subject or message body of
>     unsubscribe merchant-users yournameyourdomain.com
>---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
>
>
>------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-------------------
>On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums on
the new
>message board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
>All new questions should be asked on the new forums.
>
>FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
>TO FIND HELP: mailto:merchant-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
>TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
>     mailto:merchant-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
>   if you need to unsubscribe a different address, send
a message to:
>     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
>   with a subject or message body of
>     unsubscribe merchant-users yournameyourdomain.com
>---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------


------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-------------------
On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums on the
new
message board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
All new questions should be asked on the new forums.

FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP: mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
    mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
  if you need to unsubscribe a different address, send a
message to:
    mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
  with a subject or message body of
    unsubscribe merchant5-users yournameyourdomain.com
---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------

Send me a t-shirt and bill MIVA 

-Vic 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com 
> [mailto:owner-merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of 
> Scott Gilbert
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:45 AM
> To: Brian Bozinovich
> Cc: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> Subject: [m5u] RE: [mru] Re: [m5u] RE: [mru] Re: [m5u]
OT: April Fools
> 
> Send me a Miva Tee Shirt and bill me. 
> 
> On Topic: Thanks for everyone's help!!!!!!!
> 
> Scott
> 
> At 10:37 AM 3/31/2006, Brian Bozinovich wrote:
> >"The volunteers that have participated all
these years have 
> been tossed 
> >out the door and we didn't even get a
t-shirt."
> >
> ><mv_shamelessplug>
> >We can do custom t-shirts with any picture or logo
printed 
> on the shirt 
> >in full color. Only $7.95 a piece, with quantity
discounts 
> provided by 
> >Bill's superb volume discount module.
> ></mv_shamelessplug>
> >
> >
> >Brian Bozinovich
> >GreekClothing.com LLC
> >klassicgreekave.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
> >[mailto:owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf
Of 
> >wcwadelphia.net
> >Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:25 AM
> >To: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> >Cc: merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
> >Subject: [mru] Re: [m5u] RE: [mru] Re: [m5u] OT:
April Fools
> >
> >Their support staff is brand new.  I can only
speculate that 
> the folks 
> >in charge feel like they have a better handle on
how well or 
> poor that 
> >support staff is doing if they have a forum where
they can analyze 
> >threads (kinda like monitoring employee phone
calls).  It gives them 
> >bottom to top control of issues and resolutions. 
In a perfect world 
> >all threads will end with "problem
solved" and the quality control 
> >folks will be able to monitor weaknesses.
> >
> >I routinely ask folks to contact me through my
support log 
> if they have 
> >questions about my product.
> >I can keep better control and problem resolution
when it is 
> done this 
> >way.  This is no different from what Miva Corp is
doing.  
> Unfortunately 
> >it is so inefficient for the non-employee, that
most of the 
> support job 
> >is going to go back to Miva Corp.
> >
> >This just means that Miva support will need to do
it all, or most of 
> >it.  The volunteers that have participated all
these years have been 
> >tossed out the door and we didn't even get a
t-shirt. :-(
> >
> >--
> >Bill Weiland - Emporium Plus http://www.empo
riumplus.com/store.mvc
> >Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon, Rate This,
Wait List Mgr, 
> >PayPal, Gift/Wish List, Froogle data feed, Shipping
& dozens more 
> >Online Documentation http://www
.emporiumplus.com/tk3/v3/doc.htm
> >Question http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=
SPTS
> >|
> >
> >---- WolfPaw Computers - Miva Lists
<mivalistwpcomp.com> wrote:
> > > I find that rather amusing
myself...especially this statement:
> > >
> > > "Miva Corp wants to provide the primary
support for their
> > products, which is
> > > very good.  They have paid employees to
provide that support."
> > >
> > > Reason being, I opened a ticket on behalf of
a customer for
> > support on a CBS
> > > module and was told to contact the developer,
as they do 
> not support 
> > > third party modules.
> > >
> > > HELLO...the developer is your new VP &
General Manager...you guys 
> > > OWN the module and have for a couple years
now.
> > >
> > > Now I'm being told they only support it for
installation and use 
> > > with Dynamic Templates.
> > >
> > > HELLO again!  It's the OpenUI SuperMod...
> > >
> > > Someone over there needs a big damn clue
about customer 
> and partner 
> > > relations.
> > >
> > > Vic Vega,
> > > WolfPaw Computers
> > > MIVA Merchant Hosting Specialists
> > > "The leader of the pack in MIVA
Hosting"(sm) MIVA 
> Standard Hosting 
> > > Partner - OpenUI Premier Partner FREE
MerchantHowTo.com Basic 
> > > Tutorial Subscription with each hosting
account!
> > > A $49 value! http://tinyurl.com/48nmu
> > > Ph: (866) WOLFPAW - www.wpcomp.com -
saleswpcomp.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com] On Behalf Of 
> > > > wcwadelphia.net
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 10:00 AM
> > > > To: merchant-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > Cc: merchant5-userslistmgr.miva.com
> > > > Subject: [mru] Re: [m5u] OT: April Fools
> > > >
> > > > But that IS the joke.  Today the email
lists get turned off.
> > > > On April Fools Day a new and improved
way of communicating with 
> > > > the Miva World takes over.  I'm
laughing so hard, I'm 
> crying. :-(
> > > >
> > > > I've given up trying to make sense of
this.  I get an 
> email that a 
> > > > new post is in the forum to a thread I
subscribed to.
> > > > I link over to it and the first post is
at the top.  Then there 
> > > > are multiple pages of posts.  The
problem is, I have 
> read almost 
> > > > all of them so I have to scan through
each again and 
> again to see 
> > > > where I left off.  Real fun on a 14K
cell phone 
> connection.  Had 
> > > > this been the email list, the only thing
I would have 
> seen is the 
> > > > new emails.  Once the delete key is hit,
I don't see that email 
> > > > response again unless I look in the
trash folder.  No 
> reading the 
> > > > same text over and over.
> > > >
> > > > There must be a strong ulterior motive
for this action as it is 
> > > > far less efficient.  As I see it, Miva
Corp wants to 
> provide the 
> > > > primary support for their products,
which is very good. 
>  They have 
> > > > paid employees to provide that support. 
So this channels 
> > > > inquiries into the support system so
they can get what 
> they paid 
> > > > for.  A competing user list would
splinter the 
> questions and maybe 
> > > > provide completely divergent responses. 
Miva welcomes 
> outsiders 
> > > > to make an occassional post, but they
know this 
> herculean effort 
> > > > will die out.  Even if I had the time to
scan each 
> thread over and 
> > > > over, I don't believe in inefficiency. 
Miva support 
> knows where 
> > > > 3rd party module solutions are
available, so they will 
> send folks 
> > > > to mivacentral.com.  Miva will provide
timely responses and all 
> > > > will be well.  Now I'm smiling. 
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bill Weiland - Emporium Plus 
> http://www.empo
riumplus.com/store.mvc
> > > > Modules for eCommerce. Mail Mgr, Coupon,
Rate This, 
> Wait List Mgr, 
> > > > PayPal, Gift/Wish List, Froogle data
feed, Shipping & 
> dozens more 
> > > > Online Documentation http://www
.emporiumplus.com/tk3/v3/doc.htm
> > > > Question 
> > > > http://www.emporiumplus.com/mivamodule_wcw.mvc?Screen=
SPTS
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > > ---- Chuck Lasker - DoublePlus
<caldoubleplus.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dang. With the list dying today, I
won't be able to do an
> > > > April Fool's
> > > > > joke tomorrow. And doing it on the
forum won't be much fun, 
> > > > > because most people won't even
look at it....
> > > > >
> > > > > Chuck Lasker
> > > > > DoublePlus New Media Marketing
> > > > > caldoubleplus.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION
FOOTER 
> ------------------- 
> > > > > On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the
support forums on the new 
> > > > > message board at: 
> http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> > > > > All new questions should be asked
on the new forums.
> > > > >
> > > > > FEATURE REQUESTS:
mailto:wishlistmiva.com TO FIND HELP:
> > > > > mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> > > > >    
mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> > > > >   if you need to unsubscribe a
different address, 
> send a message to:
> > > > >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> > > > >   with a subject or message body of
> > > > >     unsubscribe merchant5-users
yournameyourdomain.com
> > > > > ---------------- END MIVA
CORPORATION FOOTER -----------------
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION
FOOTER
> > > > ------------------- On Wednesday, MIVA
will open up the support 
> > > > forums on the new message board at:
> > > > http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> > > > All new questions should be asked on the
new forums.
> > > >
> > > > FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP:
> > > > mailto:merchant-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> > > >    
mailto:merchant-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> > > >   if you need to unsubscribe a different
address, send 
> a message to:
> > > >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> > > >   with a subject or message body of
> > > >     unsubscribe merchant-users
yournameyourdomain.com
> > > > ---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION
FOOTER -----------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
------------------- On 
> > > Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support
forums on the 
> new message 
> > > board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> > > All new questions should be asked on the new
forums.
> > >
> > > FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP: 
> > > mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> > >     mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> > >   if you need to unsubscribe a different
address, send a 
> message to:
> > >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> > >   with a subject or message body of
> > >     unsubscribe merchant5-users yournameyourdomain.com
> > > ---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
> > >
> >
> >
> >------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
------------------- On 
> >Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums on
the new message 
> >board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> >All new questions should be asked on the new
forums.
> >
> >FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP: 
> >mailto:merchant-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> >     mailto:merchant-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> >   if you need to unsubscribe a different address,
send a message to:
> >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> >   with a subject or message body of
> >     unsubscribe merchant-users yournameyourdomain.com
> >---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
> >
> >
> >------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
------------------- On 
> >Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums on
the new message 
> >board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> >All new questions should be asked on the new
forums.
> >
> >FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP: 
> >mailto:merchant-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
> >     mailto:merchant-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
> >   if you need to unsubscribe a different address,
send a message to:
> >     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
> >   with a subject or message body of
> >     unsubscribe merchant-users yournameyourdomain.com
> >---------------- END MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER
-----------------
> 
> 
> ------------------ MIVA CORPORATION FOOTER 
> ------------------- On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the

> support forums on the new message board at: 
> http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
> All new questions should be asked on the new forums.
> 
> FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com TO FIND HELP: 
> mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
> TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
>     mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
>   if you need to unsubscribe a different address, send
a message to:
>     mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
>   with a subject or message body of
>     unsubscribe merchant5-users yournameyourdomain.com
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> 
> 


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On Wednesday, MIVA will open up the support forums on the
new
message board at: http:/
/smallbusiness.miva.com/resources/forums
All new questions should be asked on the new forums.

FEATURE REQUESTS: mailto:wishlistmiva.com
TO FIND HELP: mailto:merchant5-users-helplistmgr.miva.com
TO UNSUBSCRIBE - Send mail to:
    mailto:merchant5-users-unsubscribelistmgr.miva.com
  if you need to unsubscribe a different address, send a
message to:
    mailto:ezmlmlistmgr.miva.com
  with a subject or message body of
    unsubscribe merchant5-users yournameyourdomain.com
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