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Laptop dead, suggestions?
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2006-05-15 16:48:59
Greetings,

My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan.  Both the hard
dirve and
the laptop are dead.  The hard drive doesn't spin up on
about half a
dozen different machines and enclosures.  The data is likely
gone
forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place.

So, I'm in the market for a new laptop.  Unless someone is
donating me
a decent one, I'd like it to have the following
characteristics:
	>= 1GHz speed
	>= 512MB RAM
	>= 40GB hard disk
	Excellent battery life
	light weight (< 4 pounds?)
	decent scren
	well constructed
	PC Card slot
	ExpressCard slot
	SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface)
	builtin wireless

Does anybody have any recommendations?

Warner
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Laptop dead, suggestions?
user name
2006-05-15 18:41:17
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> So, I'm in the market for a new laptop.  Unless
someone is donating me
> a decent one, I'd like it to have the following
characteristics:
> 	>= 1GHz speed
> 	>= 512MB RAM
> 	>= 40GB hard disk
> 	Excellent battery life
> 	light weight (< 4 pounds?)
> 	decent scren
> 	well constructed
> 	PC Card slot
> 	ExpressCard slot
> 	SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface)
> 	builtin wireless
> 
> Does anybody have any recommendations?


I have had good experiences with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads,
having owned
several over the last ten years.  Most of mine have been the
desktop
replacement variety (except for two, a Z50 supercompact
which ran
NetBSD/hpcmips, and a previously used 560), but the Thinkpad
X-series
meets most of your requirements, not sure about the SD card
slot or
Express Card.

The X-series are the only ones without a builtin trackpad,
which may
or may not suit your personal preference-- I find the
TrackPoint red
"eraser" pointer to be very ergonomic, and
appreciate having one of the
few laptops with three mouse buttons.

regards,
Andrew
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Laptop dead, suggestions?
user name
2006-05-15 18:50:06
Andrew Elmore wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:48:59AM -0600, Warner Losh
wrote:
>> So, I'm in the market for a new laptop.  Unless
someone is donating me
>> a decent one, I'd like it to have the following
characteristics:
>> 	>= 1GHz speed
>> 	>= 512MB RAM
>> 	>= 40GB hard disk
>> 	Excellent battery life
>> 	light weight (< 4 pounds?)
>> 	decent scren
>> 	well constructed
>> 	PC Card slot
>> 	ExpressCard slot
>> 	SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface)
>> 	builtin wireless
>>
>> Does anybody have any recommendations?
> 
> I have had good experiences with IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads,
having owned
> several over the last ten years.  Most of mine have
been the desktop
> replacement variety (except for two, a Z50 supercompact
which ran
> NetBSD/hpcmips, and a previously used 560), but the
Thinkpad X-series
> meets most of your requirements, not sure about the SD
card slot or
> Express Card.

I'd second the ThinkPad vote. They're fantastic machines,
although not
the cheapest. The T and X series are certainly worth a
serious look, IMHO.

> The X-series are the only ones without a builtin
trackpad, which may
> or may not suit your personal preference-- I find the
TrackPoint red
> "eraser" pointer to be very ergonomic, and
appreciate having one of the
> few laptops with three mouse buttons.

While the X-series are fantastic machines, the newest models
(X60/X60s)
usually use the Intel 3945ABG card for the wireless*, which
isn't much
use in FreeBSD at the moment! (See my previous posts to this
list about
wireless attempts.)

James

* However there are a few models (mostly in the US I
believe) that use
the Atheros card, hence the ath driver might work. YMMV.

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Laptop dead, suggestions?
user name
2006-05-15 19:13:48
Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> So, I'm in the market for a new laptop.
> 
> Does anybody have any recommendations?
> 
> Warner
>

In my opinion reliable laptops are a question of good luck.
I didn't
have good luck with my Thinkpad (quite the opposite), but
most people
seem to have.

So my recommendation is to take one that has (at least) a 3
years
warranty plan and offers relatively cheap battery
replacements.
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Laptop dead, suggestions?
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2006-05-15 19:25:31
Offer to blow it up and post video for donations?

dave c

> Greetings,
> 
> My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan.  Both the
hard dirve and
> the laptop are dead.  The hard drive doesn't spin up
on about half a
> dozen different machines and enclosures.  The data is
likely gone
> forever, unless I can find a good data recovery place.
> 
> So, I'm in the market for a new laptop.  Unless
someone is donating me
> a decent one, I'd like it to have the following
characteristics:
> 	>= 1GHz speed
> 	>= 512MB RAM
> 	>= 40GB hard disk
> 	Excellent battery life
> 	light weight (< 4 pounds?)
> 	decent scren
> 	well constructed
> 	PC Card slot
> 	ExpressCard slot
> 	SD card slot (with the standard SD host interface)
> 	builtin wireless
> 
> Does anybody have any recommendations?
> 
> Warner
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Laptop dead, suggestions?
user name
2006-05-15 19:40:41
On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote:

> Does anybody have any recommendations?

I have an IBM ThinkPad T41.  I like it. If I had to buy a
new laptop, 
I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual core
Intel 
units.  I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it.  I think it was
US$1800 
or something, but my memory is very vague on that.

Would you consider an Apple?

-- 
Dan Langille : Software Developer looking for work
my resume: http://w
ww.freebsddiary.org/dan_langille.php


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Laptop dead, suggestions?
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2006-05-15 19:48:00
> Offer to blow it up and post video for donations?

Hmmm, I like that idea...

Warner

> > Greetings,
> > 
> > My Sony VAIO Z1W died this weekend at BSDcan. 
Both the hard dirve and
> > the laptop are dead.  The hard drive doesn't spin
up on about half a
> > dozen different machines and enclosures.  The data
is likely gone
> > forever, unless I can find a good data recovery
place.
> > 
> > So, I'm in the market for a new laptop.  Unless
someone is donating me
> > a decent one, I'd like it to have the following
characteristics:
> > 	>= 1GHz speed
> > 	>= 512MB RAM
> > 	>= 40GB hard disk
> > 	Excellent battery life
> > 	light weight (< 4 pounds?)
> > 	decent scren
> > 	well constructed
> > 	PC Card slot
> > 	ExpressCard slot
> > 	SD card slot (with the standard SD host
interface)
> > 	builtin wireless
> > 
> > Does anybody have any recommendations?
> > 
> > Warner
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Laptop dead, suggestions?
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2006-05-15 19:52:17
> On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> > Does anybody have any recommendations?
> 
> I have an IBM ThinkPad T41.  I like it. If I had to buy
a new laptop, 
> I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual
core Intel 
> units.  I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it.  I think it
was US$1800 
> or something, but my memory is very vague on that.
> 
> Would you consider an Apple?

Does FreBSD/i386 boot on Apple/intel hardware?  The answers
are the
same 

Warner
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Laptop dead, suggestions?
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2006-05-15 19:59:32
From: "Dan Langille" <danlangille.org>
Subject: Re: Laptop dead, suggestions?
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 15:40:41 -0400

> On 15 May 2006 at 10:48, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> > Does anybody have any recommendations?
> 
> I have an IBM ThinkPad T41.  I like it. If I had to buy
a new laptop, 
> I would give serious consideration to the Apple dual
core Intel 
> units.  I saw one at BSDCan and I loved it.  I think it
was US$1800 
> or something, but my memory is very vague on that.
> 
> Would you consider an Apple?

On apple's web site I'm seeing the fmore more like $2000. 
The only
down size that I see to them is that they come with a
ExpressCard/34
slot only.  No PC Card slot, and not ExpressCard/54.  Some
of the few
ExpressCard cards that I've seen are the /54 variety...

Warner
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2006-05-15 19:59:59
> > Offer to blow it up and post video for donations?
> 
> Hmmm, I like that idea...

Another reason to buy a laptop with a magnesium case....
Though I suspect Mg alloys don't burn as brightly
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