Upgrade to 1.5.3 from 1.3.5

Apologies Thomas, Ive sent this to you privatley as well. 

.....'people will READ that page. '


*cough* ahem. yes, well, I skipped through it quickly and
picked up the
translation info, but didn't really catch on there was a
page_start_page
var to set.

This bit threw me;

"Or simply use the page_front_page configuration
variable to choose
something different from FrontPage as your front page, e.g.
MyProject"


...see, it didnt seem to be what I was after, because I did
want
FrontPage as my front page but i was getting HelpOnLanguages
instead. So
I thought _NOT_ setting it, (or leaving it unset since
1.3.5) would
leave it at the default of FrontPage, which I now realsie it
doesn't

What may be more helpful, would be specifically mentioning
the situation
that 'You are no longer seeing FrontPage as your front page
because
page_front_page needs to be set, even if it wasn't
previously'

Matt













--------------------------
Matthew Warren.
matthew.warreneon-uk.com
matthew_j_warrenhotmail.com
http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwik
i/



-----Original Message-----
From: Warren, Matthew (E.ON IS UK) 
Sent: 25 April 2006 15:01
To: 'Thomas Waldmann'
Subject: RE: FW: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.5.3 from 1.3.5


.....'people will READ that page. '


*cough* ahem. yes, well, I skipped through it quickly and
picked up the
translation info, but didn't really catch on there was a
page_start_page
var to set.

This bit threw me;

"Or simply use the page_front_page configuration
variable to choose
something different from FrontPage as your front page, e.g.
MyProject"


...see, it didnt seem to be what I was after, because I did
want
FrontPage as my front page but i was getting HelpOnLanguages
instead. So
I thought _NOT_ setting it, (or leaving it unset since
1.3.5) would
leave it at the default of FrontPage, which I now realsie it
doesn't

What may be more helpful, would be specifically mentioning
the situation
that 'You are no longer seeing FrontPage as your front page
because
page_front_page needs to be set, even if it wasn't
previously'

Matt









--------------------------
Matthew Warren.
matthew.warreneon-uk.com
matthew_j_warrenhotmail.com
http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwik
i/



-----Original Message-----
From: moin-user-adminlists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:moin-user-adminlists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Thomas
Waldmann
Sent: 25 April 2006 12:42
To: moin-userlists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: FW: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.5.3 from 1.3.5


> It's not the navi_bar variable, it's page_front_page,
which is a new
> setting that's needed.

It is not really new, but we pointed it to that help page in
the hope 
that at least some people will READ that page. 

We did that because there are zillions of old moin setups in
english 
language out there doing this unintentionally wrong. As an
english 
speaker (with "en" as first language in your
browser), you might never 
notice that. But foreign (e.g. "de") visitors
will just see a default 
and unmodified "StartSeite" (the
"de" translation of FrontPage) instead 
of the project's "FrontPage" and wonder ...


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Apologies Thomas, Ive sent this to you privatley as well. 

.....'people will READ that page. '


*cough* ahem. yes, well, I skipped through it quickly and
picked up the
translation info, but didn't really catch on there was a
page_start_page
var to set.

This bit threw me;

"Or simply use the page_front_page configuration
variable to choose
something different from FrontPage as your front page, e.g.
MyProject"


...see, it didnt seem to be what I was after, because I did
want
FrontPage as my front page but i was getting HelpOnLanguages
instead. So
I thought _NOT_ setting it, (or leaving it unset since
1.3.5) would
leave it at the default of FrontPage, which I now realsie it
doesn't

What may be more helpful, would be specifically mentioning
the situation
that 'You are no longer seeing FrontPage as your front page
because
page_front_page needs to be set, even if it wasn't
previously'

Matt













--------------------------
Matthew Warren.
matthew.warreneon-uk.com
matthew_j_warrenhotmail.com
http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwik
i/



-----Original Message-----
From: Warren, Matthew (E.ON IS UK) 
Sent: 25 April 2006 15:01
To: 'Thomas Waldmann'
Subject: RE: FW: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.5.3 from 1.3.5


.....'people will READ that page. '


*cough* ahem. yes, well, I skipped through it quickly and
picked up the
translation info, but didn't really catch on there was a
page_start_page
var to set.

This bit threw me;

"Or simply use the page_front_page configuration
variable to choose
something different from FrontPage as your front page, e.g.
MyProject"


...see, it didnt seem to be what I was after, because I did
want
FrontPage as my front page but i was getting HelpOnLanguages
instead. So
I thought _NOT_ setting it, (or leaving it unset since
1.3.5) would
leave it at the default of FrontPage, which I now realsie it
doesn't

What may be more helpful, would be specifically mentioning
the situation
that 'You are no longer seeing FrontPage as your front page
because
page_front_page needs to be set, even if it wasn't
previously'

Matt









--------------------------
Matthew Warren.
matthew.warreneon-uk.com
matthew_j_warrenhotmail.com
http://tsmwiki.com/tsmwik
i/



-----Original Message-----
From: moin-user-adminlists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:moin-user-adminlists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Thomas
Waldmann
Sent: 25 April 2006 12:42
To: moin-userlists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: FW: [Moin-user] Upgrade to 1.5.3 from 1.3.5


> It's not the navi_bar variable, it's page_front_page,
which is a new
> setting that's needed.

It is not really new, but we pointed it to that help page in
the hope 
that at least some people will READ that page. 

We did that because there are zillions of old moin setups in
english 
language out there doing this unintentionally wrong. As an
english 
speaker (with "en" as first language in your
browser), you might never 
notice that. But foreign (e.g. "de") visitors
will just see a default 
and unmodified "StartSeite" (the
"de" translation of FrontPage) instead 
of the project's "FrontPage" and wonder ...


-------------------------------------------------------
Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web
services,
security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated
technology to make
your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server
v.1.0.1 based
on Apache Geronimo
http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/
sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
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Telephone +44 (0) 2476 42 4000
Fax +44 (0) 2476 42 5432


-------------------------------------------------------
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services, security?
Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to
make your job easier
Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on
Apache Geronimo
http:
//sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid0709&bid&
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