Ways to change login/registration/prefs pages?

The addition in Moin 1.5 of a "logout" button
was a big help. However, 
set testing has shown that our users are still confused by
the 
relationships between account creation, login, and setting
preferences, 
and the fact that some of these are done on the same page. I
attempted 
to copy the markup from the "main" login/account
creation/preferences 
page and modifying it to see if I could just get a
"New Account 
Registration" page, but got nowhere. My goal is to
have three completely 
separate pages: One for account creation, one for logging
in, and one 
for setting preferences. I'd prefer not to go into the moin
source to 
hack it, but probably will, if for nothing else than to add
some more 
formatting and inline comments to the existing pages. (For
example, I 
might put fields addressing different topics into a table
with cells of 
different backgrounds.) However, I'd prefer to do what I
can in a way 
that doesn't require redoing things when I update to the
next version of 
Moin. Any suggestions on the best way to proceed? Perhaps I
should write 
three new macros? If so, where in the moin code should I
look to find 
where the current prefs/login page is generated--it wasn't
clear to me 
from looking at the markup for the page exactly where the
markup came from.

Thanks,
Ken


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> The addition in Moin 1.5 of a "logout"
button was a big help. However, 
> set testing has shown that our users are still confused
by the 
> relationships between account creation, login, and
setting preferences, 
> and the fact that some of these are done on the same
page.

I we knew this a bit more detailed, it would maybe be
fixable.

> Registration" page, but got nowhere. My goal is
to have three completely 
> separate pages: One for account creation, one for
logging in, and one 
> for setting preferences.

Be aware that this stuff now is partly an action, a macro
and a page, 
depending on what you do.

> I'd prefer not to go into the moin source to 
> hack it, but probably will,

For that kind of stuff you will have to.

> different backgrounds.) However, I'd prefer to do what
I can in a way 
> that doesn't require redoing things when I update to
the next version of 
> Moin.

The best way is to do a solution that works for everybody
and get it 
into the main moin code repository, so it will be in next
release 
automatically.

Be aware that this stuff must work not only for cookie based
auth, but 
also for people using ldap or http auth. Sometimes this is
only a matter 
of NOT offering some button or field (there is no
"logout" for http auth 
and a ldap auth user can not update his password in moin 
userpreferences, for example).

 > Any suggestions on the best way to proceed? Perhaps I
should write
> three new macros? If so, where in the moin code should
I look to find 
> where the current prefs/login page is generated--it
wasn't clear to me 
> from looking at the markup for the page exactly where
the markup came from.

Interesting code is here:
MoinMoin/userform.py user.py
MoinMoin/action/login.py logout.py userprefs.py
MoinMoin/wikimacro.py + MoinMoin/macro/Login.py
MoinMoin/request.py auth.py

Maybe first get clear about how it should look like on the
user 
interface. And join #moin IRC channel for discussion.


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Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>> The addition in Moin 1.5 of a "logout"
button was a big help. However, 
>> set testing has shown that our users are still
confused by the 
>> relationships between account creation, login, and
setting 
>> preferences, and the fact that some of these are
done on the same page.
> 
> 
> I we knew this a bit more detailed, it would maybe be
fixable.
> 
>> Registration" page, but got nowhere. My goal
is to have three 
>> completely separate pages: One for account
creation, one for logging 
>> in, and one for setting preferences.

Hi Kenneth,

I'm also very interested in this split of UserPreferences.
If you decide 
to start hacking on it, please let me know. Perhaps we can
work together 
on it.

Reid


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