Logo

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:46:54 +0200
Arjan Hulshoff <arjan.m.hulshoffzonnet.nl> wrote:

> Well, I like the website. It is just simple and clear.
If you compare it 
> to Microsoft's website,  this is much clearer.  I hate
the site of 
> Microsoft. Too much crap and you never find what you
really need. The 
> logo is ok, not completely my taste though. It is just
that it is a 
> matter of taste. And by the way, if you really want
great graphics then 
> Apple is a far better example. However it is still not
very popular. So 
> I don't agree with the theory that the graphics are the
key success. The 
> success of Microsoft is far more complex, then some
graphics...

Ok, the success of Microsoft is based on a large number of
things, but take a
look at the following web site:

http://www.
icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/

http://www.eclipse.org/

http://www.netbeans.org/

When I first saw these sites my thought was "Hey, what
a professional
environment !!!". This is not what I have thought
looking at MD site.
I'm sorry. 
My proposal for the new MD logo and splash screen is just an
attempt to improve
the "look and feel" of MonoDevelop
"universe".

Regards,
Salvatore
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> When I first saw these sites my thought was "Hey,
what a professional
> environment !!!". This is not what I have thought
looking at MD site.
> I'm sorry. My proposal for the new MD logo and splash
screen is just an
> attempt to improve the "look and feel" of
MonoDevelop "universe".
>
> Regards,
> Salvatore

Dude, I love your new logo and think it 400% better that
what is there
today. I also agree with what you are saying about a
professional
appearance.

Gideon


		
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Well, I agree that there are many better websites. There is
always a 
better one. However comparing it to a company like Microsoft
is not 
fair at all. They  have a huge bank account and can afford
such 
websites. And still it is crap that they produce. Many
developers of 
website forget what the real function of a website is.
Personally I am 
not really fond of the sites that you mentioned. Too much
information 
on one page without a clear overview. As a visitor, I want
to be able 
to see where I can find things within 1 second. Most
websites, 
especially of bigger companies, aren't like that.
Furthermore a complex 
website, as you suggest, takes more time to maintain. And I
think that 
most of us at the mailinglist have a job and don't have that
much time 
to maintain sucha site. Anyway, it is ok that there are
changes made to 
a logo and/or a website. But I mainly reacted to Gideon's
message, 
because I thought that the use of the word dictatorship is
not at place 
here and that stop developing the logo to keep it the way it
is now, 
can be justified. I am not questioning someone's taste, nor
the fact 
that developing the MD logo is stopped.

Regards,
Arjan.


Citeren Salvatore Scarciglia <s.scarcigliahyperphar.com>:

> On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:46:54 +0200
> Arjan Hulshoff <arjan.m.hulshoffzonnet.nl> wrote:
>
>> Well, I like the website. It is just simple and
clear. If you compare it
>> to Microsoft's website,  this is much clearer.  I
hate the site of
>> Microsoft. Too much crap and you never find what
you really need. The
>> logo is ok, not completely my taste though. It is
just that it is a
>> matter of taste. And by the way, if you really want
great graphics then
>> Apple is a far better example. However it is still
not very popular. So
>> I don't agree with the theory that the graphics are
the key success. The
>> success of Microsoft is far more complex, then some
graphics...
>
> Ok, the success of Microsoft is based on a large number
of things, but take a
> look at the following web site:
>
> http://www.
icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/
>
> http://www.netbeans.org/
>
> When I first saw these sites my thought was "Hey,
what a professional
> environment !!!". This is not what I have thought
looking at MD site.
> I'm sorry.
> My proposal for the new MD logo and splash screen is
just an attempt 
> to improve
> the "look and feel" of MonoDevelop
"universe".
>
> Regards,
> Salvatore
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Ok, if the community has been asked and agreed on a logo why
not use
that logo in MD and on the web page instead of all this
talk? 

/Jacob

On 9/27/06, Arjan Hulshoff <arjan.m.hulshoffzonnet.nl> wrote:
> Well, I agree that there are many better websites.
There is always a
> better one. However comparing it to a company like
Microsoft is not
> fair at all. They  have a huge bank account and can
afford such
> websites. And still it is crap that they produce. Many
developers of
> website forget what the real function of a website is.
Personally I am
> not really fond of the sites that you mentioned. Too
much information
> on one page without a clear overview. As a visitor, I
want to be able
> to see where I can find things within 1 second. Most
websites,
> especially of bigger companies, aren't like that.
Furthermore a complex
> website, as you suggest, takes more time to maintain.
And I think that
> most of us at the mailinglist have a job and don't have
that much time
> to maintain sucha site. Anyway, it is ok that there are
changes made to
> a logo and/or a website. But I mainly reacted to
Gideon's message,
> because I thought that the use of the word dictatorship
is not at place
> here and that stop developing the logo to keep it the
way it is now,
> can be justified. I am not questioning someone's taste,
nor the fact
> that developing the MD logo is stopped.
>
> Regards,
> Arjan.
>
>
> Citeren Salvatore Scarciglia <s.scarcigliahyperphar.com>:
>
> > On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:46:54 +0200
> > Arjan Hulshoff <arjan.m.hulshoffzonnet.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I like the website. It is just simple
and clear. If you compare it
> >> to Microsoft's website,  this is much clearer.
 I hate the site of
> >> Microsoft. Too much crap and you never find
what you really need. The
> >> logo is ok, not completely my taste though. It
is just that it is a
> >> matter of taste. And by the way, if you really
want great graphics then
> >> Apple is a far better example. However it is
still not very popular. So
> >> I don't agree with the theory that the
graphics are the key success. The
> >> success of Microsoft is far more complex, then
some graphics...
> >
> > Ok, the success of Microsoft is based on a large
number of things, but take a
> > look at the following web site:
> >
> > http://www.
icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/
> >
> > http://www.eclipse.org/
> >
> > http://www.netbeans.org/
> >
> > When I first saw these sites my thought was
"Hey, what a professional
> > environment !!!". This is not what I have
thought looking at MD site.
> > I'm sorry.
> > My proposal for the new MD logo and splash screen
is just an attempt
> > to improve
> > the "look and feel" of MonoDevelop
"universe".
> >
> > Regards,
> > Salvatore
> > _______________________________________________
> > Monodevelop-list mailing list
> > Monodevelop-listlists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/monodevelop-li
st
> >
>
>
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