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A dreadful story...
country flaguser name
Finland
2007-09-05 13:30:43
I was scared that I would have to let go of my linux
platform for the
semester and use the windows computer as school for my .net
course.  It
looks like monodev does most of what the course needs.  But
I think it
may not fill all my needed requirements.
Almost all programs developed will have a windows gui.  I
have
experience in pythonGtk.  But, me teacher doesn't have a
clue.
My Question:
Would I be able to make binary programs with gtk built in? 
Or better,
can I create gui's in much the same way that they do in
visual
studiblows?  I am not willing to pay for a copy of windows
so I may end
up spending my nights at the school working rather then at
home. :S
A scared little student.
I am programming in pystart.
Jason Brower

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Re: A dreadful story...
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-05 16:03:50
Jason Brower wrote:
> I was scared that I would have to let go of my linux
platform for the
> semester and use the windows computer as school for my
.net course.  It
> looks like monodev does most of what the course needs. 
But I think it
> may not fill all my needed requirements.
> Almost all programs developed will have a windows gui. 
I have
> experience in pythonGtk.  But, me teacher doesn't have
a clue.
> My Question:
> Would I be able to make binary programs with gtk built
in?  Or better,
> can I create gui's in much the same way that they do in
visual
> studiblows?  I am not willing to pay for a copy of
windows so I may end
> up spending my nights at the school working rather then
at home. :S
> A scared little student.
> I am programming in pystart.
> Jason Brower
> 
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MonoDevelop has GTK# designer support, but you must have the
Mono
runtime to run these apps. If that's not possible, you could
try doing
the code on your Linux station and porting it with the gtk
and other
libs to Visual Studio on campus. Or you could go with
Winforms.

At worst, you could dual boot Linux and Windows. Many
schools provide
Windows and VS for free or next to nothing.


Jon Cosby

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Re: A dreadful story...
user name
2007-09-05 16:55:55
> At worst, you could dual boot Linux and Windows. Many
schools provide
> Windows and VS for free or next to nothing.
>

Or run Windows/development tools under VMware. VMware server
is free afaik.

Chris
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Re: A dreadful story...
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-05 17:26:54
Chris Morgan wrote:
>> At worst, you could dual boot Linux and Windows.
Many schools provide
>> Windows and VS for free or next to nothing.
>>
> 
> Or run Windows/development tools under VMware. VMware
server is free afaik.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 

True. SharpDevelop is also free and better than Visual
Studio in many
ways. Even has support for Mono apps.


Jon


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Re: A dreadful story...
user name
2007-09-06 23:18:15
On 05/09/07, Chris Morgan <chmorgangmail.com> wrote:
> > At worst, you could dual boot Linux and Windows.
Many schools provide
> > Windows and VS for free or next to nothing.
> >
>
> Or run Windows/development tools under VMware. VMware
server is free afaik.
>
But cheap versions of Windows are specifically not licensed
for
running under emulation. Sneaky marketing people,
Microsofties!

-- 
Michel
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Re: A dreadful story...
user name
2007-09-08 18:05:57
On 07/09/2007, Peter Bradley <P.Bradleydsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> Ysgrifennodd Michel Salim:
> > On 05/09/07, Chris Morgan <chmorgangmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> At worst, you could dual boot Linux and
Windows. Many schools provide
> >>> Windows and VS for free or next to
nothing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Or run Windows/development tools under VMware.
VMware server is free afaik.
> >>
> >>
> > But cheap versions of Windows are specifically not
licensed for
> > running under emulation. Sneaky marketing people,
Microsofties!
> >
> >
> The stuff educational establishments provide for free
are not
> necessarily the cheap versions.  Not in the UK, anyway
(under CHEST).
> That's not to say they're licensed for running under
emulation, though.
> Someone would have to check the license to find out.
>
Ah, quite true. I just remembered that the student bookstore
here
sells Vista Business (under the Student Select Agreement),
and members
of the CS departments actually get to download most
Microsoft OSes for
research.

Here's what the Vista Business EULA say about
virtualization:

f. Use with Virtualization Technologies. You may use the
software
installed on the
licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated)
hardware
system. If you do so,
you may not play or access content or use applications
protected by
any Microsoft digital,
information or enterprise rights management technology or
other Microsoft rights
management services or use BitLocker. We advise against
playing or
accessing content
or using applications protected by other digital,
information or
enterprise rights
management technology or other rights management services or
using
full volume disk
drive encryption.

The DRM restriction is surprising, but I guess they want to
make it
harder for people to reverse-engineer the protection
mechanism.

Now, two things:
1. in the USA, it's illegal to reverse-engineer any DRM
technology
anyway (DMCA), unless you're doing it for data preservation
reasons
2. In some countries (as Jacek mentioned) I wonder if it
might not be
illegal to add restrictions like these.

-- 
Michel
>
> Peter
>
>
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Re: A dreadful story...
user name
2007-09-08 20:01:48


On 9/5/07, Jason Brower < encompassgmail.com">encompassgmail.com> wrote:
I was scared that I would have to let go of my linux platform for the
semester and use the windows computer as school for my .net course.&nbsp; It
looks like monodev does most of what the course needs.&nbsp; But I think it
may not fill all my needed requirements.
Almost all programs developed will have a windows gui.  I have
experience in pythonGtk.  ;But, me teacher doesn't have a clue.
My Question:
Would I be able to make binary programs with gtk built in? &nbsp;Or better,
can I create gui's in much the same way that they do in visual
studiblows?&nbsp; I am not willing to pay for a copy of windows so I may end
up spending my nights at the school working rather then at home. :S
A scared little student.
I am programming in pystart.
Jason Brower

Check if your campus has a  Microsoft lab or something, in my school you can go to the  Microsoft lab and they giveaway free vistas business edition.


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