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Re: MonoSummit: Planning the Sessions
user name
2007-10-31 11:03:21
Dam Gmail, it doesn't includ the list by defaut when
answering
2007/10/31, Petit Eric <surfzoidgmail.com>:
> At this time there is a way/method/howto for have a
simalar debuging
> tool as MS in MD, to folow own code step by step, pas
throug and so on
> directly in MD IDE/RAD, during execution of the program
?
>
> 2007/10/31, Miguel de Icaza <miguelximian.com>:
> >
> > > I would be happy to hear about debugging
applications with mono, the state of
> > > the debugger, etc.
> > >
> > > Also, in relation to this, debugging mono
itself: when you _really_ think what
> > > you observe is not a bug in your program, how
to go about checking mono
> > > against the C# standard, MS implementation,
whatever.
> >
> > Great suggestion;
> >
> > We will add a "Debugging with MDB"
tutorial, and we probably will have a
> > Tips and Trick BOF session.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mono-devel-list mailing list
> > Mono-devel-listlists.ximian.com
> > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list

> >
>
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Re: MonoSummit: Planning the Sessions
user name
2007-11-02 09:39:01

I like the idea of having a debugging session. I am a VS.NET brat and am struggling with the best way to debug (hunt down issues) and learn some of the Mono framework. I have created VS.NET solutions for System.Drawing and System.Windows.Forms so I could browse the source with VS.NET which helps. My current way is to build on Windows, copy the assemblies and use Console.Writeline to debug and learn stacks. Let's just say this is not ideal. So the session could be titled something like "Debugging Mono for VS.NET brats";. Some ideas for a debugging session:

- What tools/processes do Mono developers use to develop?
- What is the easiest way for VS.NET developers to debug the framework?
- What is the process for submitting code changes (patch files)?


I also would like to see a session on the dependencies and the way modules are organized. For example, what the mono framework libraries call into and their dependencies. What parts are unmanged and which parts are managed etc. Here is some examples (the dependencies are things I have read and learned from buildling and might not be totally correct):

- Class libraries -> [glib-2.0] - [gthread-2.0] - [libgc]
- Moon -> [ffmpeg] - [GTK -> GDK] - [ALSA]
- System.Drawing -> [libgdiplus -> Cairo (statically linked into libgdiplus)]

Brock



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Dam Gmail, it doesn't includ the list by defaut when answering
2007/10/31, Petit Eric <surfzoidgmail.com&gt;:
> At this time there is a way/method/howto for have a simalar debuging
> tool as MS in MD, to folow own code step by step, pas throug and so on
&gt; directly in MD IDE/RAD, during execution of the program ?
>
> 2007/10/31, Miguel de Icaza <miguelximian.com>:
>; >
>; > > I would be happy to hear about debugging applications with mono, the state of
> > > the debugger, etc.
>; > >
>; > > Also, in relation to this, debugging mono itself: when you _really_ think what
>; > > you observe is not a bug in your program, how to go about checking mono
>; > > against the C# standard, MS implementation, whatever.
> >
>; > Great suggestion;
> >
>; > We will add a "Debugging with MDB" tutorial, and we probably will have a
> > Tips and Trick BOF session.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Mono-devel-list mailing list
>; > Mono-devel-listlists.ximian.com
&gt; > http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-devel-list
> >
>;
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