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| AS3 options for mtasc users |
  United States |
2007-02-27 09:55:42 |
I've been a happy user of mtasc ever since I first
discovered it. I love being
able to develop flash on Linux and not having to deal with
the cumbersome
flash IDE.
Recently I've read that AS3 can give pretty dramatic
performance improvements
with the flash 9 player, and I was wondering what other
mtasc users are
planning to do in the future.
I know that Nicolas has moved on to haXe and has said mtasc
won't be updated
to support AS3. I totally understand where he's coming from,
but I don't know
if haXe is appropriate for my project. We have a large
system in php that we
are pretty happy with, so the server side aspects of haXe
aren't really that
compelling for us.
The ability to build the flash part of our app in the IDE,
if needed, is
something we consider valuable so we can easily hire outside
flash developers
without teaching them our build system.
I'm going to look into haXe more to see if the benefits
outweigh the negatives
for our project, but I'd be interested to hear what
solutions other people
have chosen.
--
Chris Bare
chris bareflix.com
--
MTASC : no more coffee break while compiling
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| Re: AS3 options for mtasc users |
  Belgium |
2007-02-27 10:21:17 |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Bare" <chris bareflix.com>
To: <mtasc lists.motion-twin.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:55 PM
Subject: [mtasc] AS3 options for mtasc users
> I've been a happy user of mtasc ever since I first
discovered it. I love being
> able to develop flash on Linux and not having to deal
with the cumbersome
> flash IDE.
> Recently I've read that AS3 can give pretty dramatic
performance improvements
> with the flash 9 player, and I was wondering what other
mtasc users are
> planning to do in the future.
> I know that Nicolas has moved on to haXe and has said
mtasc won't be updated
> to support AS3. I totally understand where he's coming
from, but I don't know
> if haXe is appropriate for my project. We have a large
system in php that we
> are pretty happy with, so the server side aspects of
haXe aren't really that
> compelling for us.
> The ability to build the flash part of our app in the
IDE, if needed, is
> something we consider valuable so we can easily hire
outside flash developers
> without teaching them our build system.
> I'm going to look into haXe more to see if the benefits
outweigh the negatives
> for our project, but I'd be interested to hear what
solutions other people
> have chosen.
> --
> Chris Bare
> chris bareflix.com
>
> --
> MTASC : no more coffee break while compiling
>
--
MTASC : no more coffee break while compiling
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| Re: AS3 options for mtasc users |
  France |
2007-02-27 10:39:26 |
> I know that Nicolas has moved on to haXe and has said
mtasc won't be updated
> to support AS3. I totally understand where he's coming
from, but I don't know
> if haXe is appropriate for my project. We have a large
system in php that we
> are pretty happy with, so the server side aspects of
haXe aren't really that
> compelling for us.
haXe already supports Flash9, and is a better language than
AS3.
It's important to know that you don't have to use haXe
server side if
you don't wish to, you can keep your PHP and talk between
the haXe SWF
and your PHP server.
Same for Javascript. You can either use your current JS or
reuse your
haXe knowledge (once acquired) to enrich your website with
JS/AJAX code.
Best,
Nicolas
--
MTASC : no more coffee break while compiling
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| Re: AS3 options for mtasc users |

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2007-02-27 11:42:36 |
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I have huge problems with suggesting haxe on Flash9 level - especially since its not possible to post load .swfs properly and it doesn't feature similar quality IDE. I am big supporter for haXe (and I try to encourage all around me whenever I can) but acutally, as AS3 competitor its little weak. Not that those weaknesses could not be removed but I think you should be aware of the fact that haXe is by far not competitive yet. Personally I am still sticking at Flash8 because of as2lib... (well its a personal weakness of mine, so don't take it into credit). On the other Hand: haXe could be a great deal for anyone using JavaScript. But same: It could: Other libraries are still by far in advantage (performance, library size, etc.). If you need to do Flash9 maybe you concider Flex2 stuff.
yours Martin.
PS.: I am also one of the opinion that there needs to be a open source flash9 competitor because for the competitions sake and for the reason that maybe someone want's to write a library for flash9 in open source style. Maybe it could be possible to make haXe read (for libraries sake) flash9 and flash8 files (from mtasc methodlogy) in order to reuse the libraries written for each language.
On 2/27/07, Nicolas Cannasse < ncannasse motion-twin.com">ncannasse motion-twin.com> wrote:
> I know that Nicolas has moved on to haXe and has said mtasc won't be updated > to support AS3. I totally understand where he's coming from, but I don't know > if haXe is appropriate for my project. We have a large system in php that we
> are pretty happy with, so the server side aspects of haXe aren't really that > compelling for us.
haXe already supports Flash9, and is a better language than AS3.
It39;s important to know that you don't have to use haXe server side if
you don't wish to, you can keep your PHP and talk between the haXe SWF and your PHP server.
Same for Javascript. You can either use your current JS or reuse your haXe knowledge (once acquired) to enrich your website with JS/AJAX code.
Best, Nicolas
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