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| Re: D200 performance at ISO 1600 |
 
United States |
2007-07-24 19:53:51 |
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Debbie,
When testing the D200 to its limits, I got very usable - if not
perfect - results using ISO3200!
The art is in the post-processing 'triangular' balance between Levels
(for brightness), USM and Noise Removal.
Kelly said it perfectly: under-exposure will always produce grain, so
brightening will bring this out. One can select High ISO Noise
Removal in the D200, alternately a post-processing plug-in - such as
Noise Ninja, Imagenomic or Neat whatsisname ...
A clash exists between USM (Sharpening) and Noise Removal, and by
experimenting one finds the happy balance between the two (for me
it's still in the realms of serendipity ...).
If you have and are familar with Photoshop or a similar software, I
would, in your place, ask to take some High ISO shots in the shop
with a demo D200, get them written to a CD, take it home and see how
you like the results. If you don't have software with a Noise Removal
plug-in or feature, I'd set the D200 to High ISO Noise Removal ON at
the time. I would vary the test shots to include both light and
shadow.
--- In NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200 yahoogroups.com, "Debbie T." <elnoralouisa...>
wrote:
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> hey, thanks. When the read the first post, I was like ok, cross
the camera off the list. I don't have my external flash on my camera
about 50% of the time, because I don't need it for what I am doing.
>
> Debbie
>
> PastorKelly 2 <PastorKelly...> wrote:
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> Debbie, so long as you are using a proper exposure, you will
have virtually no grain... noise. but if you underexpose the image
even at 100 ISO, you will have grain. this is true for every brand
and model of camera on the market today... it has always been this
way! If you are happy with the D80, then more than likely you would
not need the D200, however if there are features that you would not
have on the D80 that you want, then go for the D200. The D200 is
unsing nearly 2 year old technology and the D2xs... the next step
up... is using even older technology... many people say that the D200
produces an image that is even better than the D2xs because of the
newer technology...
>
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| Re: Re: D200 performance at ISO 1600 |
United States |
2007-07-24 20:42:23 |
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Avraham, could you post your images that you shot at
3200? I think that you did post them once before and even then I thought
that they were fantastic.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:53
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Subject: [NIKOND200] Re: D200 performance
at ISO 1600
Debbie,
When testing the D200 to its limits, I got very usable - if
not
perfect - results using ISO3200!
The art is in the
post-processing 'triangular' balance between Levels
(for brightness), USM
and Noise Removal.
Kelly said it perfectly: under-exposure will always
produce grain, so
brightening will bring this out. One can select High ISO
Noise
Removal in the D200, alternately a post-processing plug-in - such as
Noise Ninja, Imagenomic or Neat whatsisname ...
A clash exists
between USM (Sharpening) and Noise Removal, and by
experimenting one finds
the happy balance between the two (for me
it's still in the realms of
serendipity ...).
If you have and are familar with Photoshop or a
similar software, I
would, in your place, ask to take some High ISO shots
in the shop
with a demo D200, get them written to a CD, take it home and
see how
you like the results. If you don't have software with a Noise
Removal
plug-in or feature, I'd set the D200 to High ISO Noise Removal ON
at
the time. I would vary the test shots to include both light and
shadow.
--- In NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com,
"Debbie T." <elnoralouisa...>
wrote:
>
> hey,
thanks. When the read the first post, I was like ok, cross
the camera off
the list. I don't have my external flash on my camera
about 50% of the
time, because I don't need it for what I am doing.
>;
>
Debbie
>;
> PastorKelly 2 <PastorKelly...> wrote:
>
> Debbie, so long as you are using a proper exposure, you will
have virtually no grain... noise. but if you underexpose the image
even at 100 ISO, you will have grain. this is true for every brand
and
model of camera on the market today... it has always been this
way! If you
are happy with the D80, then more than likely you would
not need the D200,
however if there are features that you would not
have on the D80 that you
want, then go for the D200. The D200 is
unsing nearly 2 year old
technology and the D2xs... the next step
up... is using even older
technology... many people say that the D200
produces an image that is
even better than the D2xs because of the
newer technology...
>
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| Re: D200 performance at ISO 1600 |
United States |
2007-07-29 17:57:28 |
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--- In NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com, "avrahamreiss" <areiss...> wrote:
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> Debbie,
>
> When testing the D200 to its limits, I got very usable - if not
> perfect - results using ISO3200!
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> The art is in the post-processing 'triangular' balance between Levels
> (for brightness), USM and Noise Removal.
>
Okay... let's talk about this triangulation. I shot some high ISO
photos... lots of noise especially in the shadow areas...
What's a good work flow?
Have you some tips or pointers?
I am using CS2 and noise ninja. Noise ninja recommends doing noise
reduction first... what do you do? And in what order?
How about sharpening? Do you still sharpen your photos? It seems to
undo the work of noise reduction some.
Mike
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