Re: A couple of product questions

Kelly,
In addition to the justifications you detailed for using the SB-800,
I would add one more: shots taken with it (I'm talking mainly of
people shots) look so natural that its very difficult, often
impossible, to be able to discern that flash was actually used. I can
say that about a very high percentage of the shots (mostly family)
that I take.

--- In NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com, "Pastor Kelly"; <PastorKelly...>
wrote:
>
&gt; Paul, I would say just the opposit of Ron. I bought the SB800
never intending to get another SB flash... after 2 years I have
not... but I find that the extra range of the SB800 has come in handy
several times... I have used the D200 in commander mode a couple of
times and that too has been nice, and the very best part to me is the
ability to use a 5th battery. I have a very fast recharge because of
it and have gotten 3 and 4 frames a second at close range when
shooting in hs mode. But my bigest reason for saying that I would
get the SB800 is that you say: "I do not know what tomorrow will
hold.&quot; That is reason enough for me to recomend the SB800, but the
choice is still yours.
&gt;
> As far as Capture NX... well, as far as getting the absolute most
out of an image... this is probably the program to use. Nikon knows
how to get the preprietary stuff out of their images like no one else
can do. Oh the others are very close and in 99% of the time, you
would never know the difference... but occasionally, it is really
nice to have Capture. I quit using it as my main program because it
was so slow on my computer... I just got my new machine built and
Vista on it yesterday. It has an intel Q6600 quad core, 2.4 gtz
processor, with an EVGA 8800 GTS Nvidia graphics card, 8 gig of ram,
and 1.5 tb of storage in a raid 5 config.
>
> I will be putting Capture on this machine and I will hope that it
will preform like it should, but if not I will not use it! As to
what I do use all of the time, I have Pixmantec Raw Shooter
Premium... I like it very well, and am very pleased in how it
processes my images, but I will be getting a D80 for my wife in a
month or two and this program does not support the D80 and pixmantec
is no longer in business.
>
> In the sale of pixmantec, who was bought out by adobe and Lightroom
was based on it, I recieved a free copy of Lightroom. I like it very
well also, and infact have found that it does what I personally
believe to be a better job than capture on those images that are
close to being blown out because of being shot into the sun or have a
lot of reflection on them... so, to me, a good program to use for raw
conversion would be Lightroom or CS3.... they both have the same raw
converter. BTW, I only shoot Raw, so I use a raw converter a lot...
I shoot about 25000 images a year. this is my opinion... I hope that
yo get more out of it than what you paid for it! LOL
> Kelly
&gt; http://www.pbase.com/digital_kelly
>;
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul
> To: NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:51 PM
> Subject: [NIKOND200] A couple of product questions
>
>
> Hi folks,
&gt;
> I have a little money that seems to be burning a hole in my
pocket.
> After visiting the USAF Museum in Dayton, OH this summer and
finding
> it to be a hard place to shoot in because it is so dark, I have
> decided to purchase a flash for my D200. Between the SB600 and
the
> SB800 which would you choose? Is the nearly double the cost for
the
> SB800 worth it? Does the SB800 have a longer flash distance?
Please
> keep in mind, as of yet I do not have a need to slave flashes. I
do
> not know what tomorrow will hold.
>
> I am also considering purchasing Capture NX. I currently use
> PictureProject to transfer, Nikon View as needed, and PhotoShop
> Elements 3 for the bulk of my editing. I do find the lack of NEF
> compatibility in PhotoShop a bit frustrating. It reads NEF fine
but
> I find I have to convert to another format to do any editing. Is
> Capture NX worth it, or is just another software I am not going
to
> appreciate fully? Is it intuitive? Is it worth the cost? Is it a
> repeat of what I already have?
>
> Thanks once again for all your help.
>
> PBJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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I want to go along with the vote for the SB800. All the reasons cited below
&#43;+. It's hard to believe that the 5th battery increases recycle time as much
as it does, but is has come in handy many times. The quality of light just
using the included Sto-fen diffuser runs circles around direct flash. I have
also experimented with various bounce cards with great success. It's true
you can add these items to the 600, but you do not have the luxury of the
additional power, which is needed in bounce or diffuser use.

Commander mode is awesome for portable creative lighting.

In short, YES, it is worth the extra money, IMHO.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com [mailto: NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of avrahamreiss
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:59 PM
To: NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NIKOND200] Re: A couple of product questions

Kelly,
In addition to the justifications you detailed for using the SB-800, I would
add one more: shots taken with it (I'm talking mainly of people shots) look
so natural that its very difficult, often impossible, to be able to discern
that flash was actually used. I can say that about a very high percentage of
the shots (mostly family) that I take.

--- In NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com, "Pastor Kelly"; <PastorKelly...>
wrote:
&gt;
> Paul, I would say just the opposit of Ron. I bought the SB800
never intending to get another SB flash... after 2 years I have not... but I
find that the extra range of the SB800 has come in handy several times... I
have used the D200 in commander mode a couple of times and that too has been
nice, and the very best part to me is the ability to use a 5th battery. I
have a very fast recharge because of it and have gotten 3 and 4 frames a
second at close range when shooting in hs mode. But my bigest reason for
saying that I would get the SB800 is that you say: "I do not know what
tomorrow will hold."; That is reason enough for me to recomend the SB800,
but the choice is still yours.
&gt;
> As far as Capture NX... well, as far as getting the absolute most
out of an image... this is probably the program to use. Nikon knows how to
get the preprietary stuff out of their images like no one else can do. Oh
the others are very close and in 99% of the time, you would never know the
difference... but occasionally, it is really nice to have Capture. I quit
using it as my main program because it was so slow on my computer... I just
got my new machine built and Vista on it yesterday. It has an intel Q6600
quad core, 2.4 gtz processor, with an EVGA 8800 GTS Nvidia graphics card, 8
gig of ram, and 1.5 tb of storage in a raid 5 config.
>
> I will be putting Capture on this machine and I will hope that it
will preform like it should, but if not I will not use it! As to what I do
use all of the time, I have Pixmantec Raw Shooter Premium... I like it very
well, and am very pleased in how it processes my images, but I will be
getting a D80 for my wife in a month or two and this program does not
support the D80 and pixmantec is no longer in business.
>
> In the sale of pixmantec, who was bought out by adobe and Lightroom
was based on it, I recieved a free copy of Lightroom. I like it very well
also, and infact have found that it does what I personally believe to be a
better job than capture on those images that are close to being blown out
because of being shot into the sun or have a lot of reflection on them...
so, to me, a good program to use for raw conversion would be Lightroom or
CS3.... they both have the same raw converter. BTW, I only shoot Raw, so I
use a raw converter a lot...
I shoot about 25000 images a year. this is my opinion... I hope that yo get
more out of it than what you paid for it! LOL
> Kelly
&gt; http://www.pbase.com/digital_kelly
>;
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul
> To: NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:51 PM
> Subject: [NIKOND200] A couple of product questions
>
>
> Hi folks,
&gt;
> I have a little money that seems to be burning a hole in my
pocket.
> After visiting the USAF Museum in Dayton, OH this summer and
finding
> it to be a hard place to shoot in because it is so dark, I have
> decided to purchase a flash for my D200. Between the SB600 and
the
> SB800 which would you choose? Is the nearly double the cost for
the
> SB800 worth it? Does the SB800 have a longer flash distance?
Please
> keep in mind, as of yet I do not have a need to slave flashes. I
do
> not know what tomorrow will hold.
>
> I am also considering purchasing Capture NX. I currently use
> PictureProject to transfer, Nikon View as needed, and PhotoShop
> Elements 3 for the bulk of my editing. I do find the lack of NEF
> compatibility in PhotoShop a bit frustrating. It reads NEF fine
but
> I find I have to convert to another format to do any editing. Is
> Capture NX worth it, or is just another software I am not going
to
> appreciate fully? Is it intuitive? Is it worth the cost? Is it a
> repeat of what I already have?
>
> Thanks once again for all your help.
>
> PBJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
----------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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10/14/2007 9:22 AM
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Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:59 PM

Subject: [NIKOND200] Re: A couple of product questions

Kelly,
In addition to the justifications you detailed for using the SB-800,
I would add one more: shots taken with it (I'm talking mainly of
people shots) look so natural that its very difficult, often
impossible, to be able to discern that flash was actually used. I can
say that about a very high percentage of the shots (mostly family)
that I take.

--- In NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com, "Pastor Kelly" <PastorKelly...>
wrote:
&gt;
> Paul, I would say just the opposit of Ron. I bought the SB800
never intending to get another SB flash... after 2 years I have
not... but I find that the extra range of the SB800 has come in handy
several times... I have used the D200 in commander mode a couple of
times and that too has been nice, and the very best part to me is the
ability to use a 5th battery. I have a very fast recharge because of
it and have gotten 3 and 4 frames a second at close range when
shooting in hs mode. But my bigest reason for saying that I would
get the SB800 is that you say: "I do not know what tomorrow will
hold." That is reason enough for me to recomend the SB800, but the
choice is still yours.
>;
> As far as Capture NX... well, as far as getting the absolute most
out of an image... this is probably the program to use. Nikon knows
how to get the preprietary stuff out of their images like no one else
can do. Oh the others are very close and in 99% of the time, you
would never know the difference... but occasionally, it is really
nice to have Capture. I quit using it as my main program because it
was so slow on my computer... I just got my new machine built and
Vista on it yesterday. It has an intel Q6600 quad core, 2.4 gtz
processor, with an EVGA 8800 GTS Nvidia graphics card, 8 gig of ram,
and 1.5 tb of storage in a raid 5 config.
>
> I will be putting Capture on this machine and I will hope that it
will preform like it should, but if not I will not use it! As to
what I do use all of the time, I have Pixmantec Raw Shooter
Premium... I like it very well, and am very pleased in how it
processes my images, but I will be getting a D80 for my wife in a
month or two and this program does not support the D80 and pixmantec
is no longer in business.
>
> In the sale of pixmantec, who was bought out by adobe and Lightroom
was based on it, I recieved a free copy of Lightroom. I like it very
well also, and infact have found that it does what I personally
believe to be a better job than capture on those images that are
close to being blown out because of being shot into the sun or have a
lot of reflection on them... so, to me, a good program to use for raw
conversion would be Lightroom or CS3.... they both have the same raw
converter. BTW, I only shoot Raw, so I use a raw converter a lot...
I shoot about 25000 images a year. this is my opinion... I hope that
yo get more out of it than what you paid for it! LOL
> Kelly
> http://www.pbase.com/digital_kelly
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul
> To: NIKOND200%40yahoogroups.com">NIKOND200yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:51 PM
> Subject: [NIKOND200] A couple of product questions
>
>
> Hi folks,
>;
> I have a little money that seems to be burning a hole in my
pocket.
> After visiting the USAF Museum in Dayton, OH this summer and
finding
> it to be a hard place to shoot in because it is so dark, I have
> decided to purchase a flash for my D200. Between the SB600 and
the
> SB800 which would you choose? Is the nearly double the cost for
the
> SB800 worth it? Does the SB800 have a longer flash distance?
Please
> keep in mind, as of yet I do not have a need to slave flashes. I
do
> not know what tomorrow will hold.
>
> I am also considering purchasing Capture NX. I currently use
> PictureProject to transfer, Nikon View as needed, and PhotoShop
> Elements 3 for the bulk of my editing. I do find the lack of NEF
> compatibility in PhotoShop a bit frustrating. It reads NEF fine
but
> I find I have to convert to another format to do any editing. Is
> Capture NX worth it, or is just another software I am not going
to
> appreciate fully? Is it intuitive? Is it worth the cost? Is it a
> repeat of what I already have?
>
> Thanks once again for all your help.
>
> PBJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
----------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
&gt; Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date:
10/14/2007 9:22 AM
>

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