new NUT repository

I've created a new NUT repository that contains the old NUT
repository
and the specification files (oggless-xiph-codecs.txt,
nut.txt, mpcf.txt,
mncf.txt) each in a separate directory.

svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/nut.merged/
http://svn.mplaye
rhq.hu/nut.merged/

Make sure it works as expected.  If it does we can do away
with the old
one and remove the specification files from the MPlayer
repository.

enjoy

Diego
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:36:38PM +0200, Diego Biurrun
wrote:
> I've created a new NUT repository that contains the old
NUT repository
> and the specification files (oggless-xiph-codecs.txt,
nut.txt, mpcf.txt,
> mncf.txt) each in a separate directory.
> 
> svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/nut.merged/
> http://svn.mplaye
rhq.hu/nut.merged/
> 
> Make sure it works as expected.  If it does we can do
away with the old
> one and remove the specification files from the MPlayer
repository.

Oded is happy with the repository, nobody else complained. 
So if there
are no further objections, I will remove the files from the
MPlayer
repository after the weekend.

Diego
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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:46:48AM +0200, Michael
Niedermayer wrote:

> btw, i really think these svn repo moves and changes
shouldnt be done at all

It's also been my experience that having separate svn
repositories 
causes pain later on. Since svn doesn't have built in
support for
distributed merges, you can't put things back together again
without
breaking either version number references or revision lookup
by date.
So you need to be really sure the projects are completely
separate.

You've also broken all the links to xiph-oggless out there.

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Hi

On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 07:08:34AM -0700, Ralph Giles
wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:46:48AM +0200, Michael
Niedermayer wrote:
> 
> > btw, i really think these svn repo moves and
changes shouldnt be done at all
> 
> It's also been my experience that having separate svn
repositories 
> causes pain later on. Since svn doesn't have built in
support for
> distributed merges, you can't put things back together
again without
> breaking either version number references or revision
lookup by date.

yes, svn sucks


> So you need to be really sure the projects are
completely separate.

yes


> 
> You've also broken all the links to xiph-oggless out
there.

ive added some short text in its place to point to the new
one
does that help? or do you have another suggestion how to fix
it
personally id revert the whole move, though iam not sure
what the other
developers think about that ...

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Its not that you shouldnt use gotos but rather that you
should write
readable code and code with gotos often but not always is
less readable

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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 07:43:55PM +0200, Michael
Niedermayer wrote:

> ive added some short text in its place to point to the
new one
> does that help?

That does help, thanks.

Google's best link is actually 

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/tech/oggless-xiph-codecs.t
xt

Which hasn't broken yet.

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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:46:48AM +0200, Michael
Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:17:31AM +0200, Diego Biurrun
wrote:
> > On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 02:48:19PM +0200, Diego
Biurrun wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:36:38PM +0200,
Diego Biurrun wrote:
> > > > I've created a new NUT repository that
contains the old NUT repository
> > > > and the specification files
(oggless-xiph-codecs.txt, nut.txt, mpcf.txt,
> > > > mncf.txt) each in a separate directory.
> > > > 
> > > > svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/nut.merged/
> > > > http://svn.mplaye
rhq.hu/nut.merged/
> > > > 
> > > > Make sure it works as expected.  If it
does we can do away with the old
> > > > one and remove the specification files
from the MPlayer repository.
> > > 
> > > Oded is happy with the repository, nobody
else complained.  So if there
> > > are no further objections, I will remove the
files from the MPlayer
> > > repository after the weekend.
> > 
> > Files removed.
> > 
> > I'm hearing no complaints about the new
repository, Oded said he was
> > happy.  Unless I hear protests I will remove the
old one and rename the
> > new one to 'nut' by the end of the week.
> > 
> > While we're at it..  There are only two committers
(Oded and Alex) for
> > the NUT repository.  Is that on purpose or should
the usual MPlayer or
> > FFmpeg crowd be allowed to commit?
> 
> well i guess i as main author of the nut spec should
have commit access to
> it at minimum
> also i think "everyone" should have commit
access ...

I've added the MPlayer committers.

> btw, i really think these svn repo moves and changes
shouldnt be done at all
> now, simply becasue they cause work for everyone and
svn (at least all repos
> where iam maintainer) will be changed to git (or less
likely mercurial)
> IMO svn has reached the end of its usefullness ...

Disagree strongly, but I really have no interest in flaming
about this
issue.

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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 07:08:34AM -0700, Ralph Giles
wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:46:48AM +0200, Michael
Niedermayer wrote:
> 
> > btw, i really think these svn repo moves and
changes shouldnt be done at all
> 
> It's also been my experience that having separate svn
repositories 
> causes pain later on. Since svn doesn't have built in
support for
> distributed merges, you can't put things back together
again without
> breaking either version number references or revision
lookup by date.
> So you need to be really sure the projects are
completely separate.

Yes, we know that now.  It's called the benefit of
hindsight.

> You've also broken all the links to xiph-oggless out
there.

What links?

Guys, get your act together and create a proper website. 
One that does
not disappear every few weeks would be a plus.

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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 10:58:39AM -0700, Ralph Giles
wrote:
> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 07:43:55PM +0200, Michael
Niedermayer wrote:
> 
> > ive added some short text in its place to point to
the new one
> > does that help?
> 
> That does help, thanks.
> 
> Google's best link is actually 
> 
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/tech/oggless-xiph-codecs.t
xt
> 
> Which hasn't broken yet.

Seriously, why not put up the web page again or anything
really...

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On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 11:17:31AM +0200, Diego Biurrun
wrote:
> On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 02:48:19PM +0200, Diego Biurrun
wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:36:38PM +0200, Diego
Biurrun wrote:
> > > I've created a new NUT repository that
contains the old NUT repository
> > > and the specification files
(oggless-xiph-codecs.txt, nut.txt, mpcf.txt,
> > > mncf.txt) each in a separate directory.
> > > 
> > > svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/nut.merged/
> > > http://svn.mplaye
rhq.hu/nut.merged/
> > > 
> > > Make sure it works as expected.  If it does
we can do away with the old
> > > one and remove the specification files from
the MPlayer repository.
> > 
> > Oded is happy with the repository, nobody else
complained.  So if there
> > are no further objections, I will remove the files
from the MPlayer
> > repository after the weekend.
> 
> Files removed.
> 
> I'm hearing no complaints about the new repository,
Oded said he was
> happy.  Unless I hear protests I will remove the old
one and rename the
> new one to 'nut' by the end of the week.

Done.

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