Joomla homepage

I'm new to Joomla and have what I think is a basic
question, but I can't 
find a good answer anywhere.  I have an existing web site,
at 
mydomain.com.  My homepage is mydomain.com/index.php.  Now I
want to 
install Joomla, and take my time learning it while my
existing web site 
stays in place.  So I install Joomla into a subdirectory,
and I can 
access it at mydomain.com/joomla/index.php, without anybody
else knowing 
about it.  That's fine until my Joomla site is ready to go
live.  I 
don't want users to have to go to mydomain.com/joomla, so
how can I get 
my Joomla site to show up when visitors go to mydomain.com? 
Do I use 
.htaccess?  (I don't want the 'joomla' address appearing
in the 
browser's address field if I can help it.)  Do I copy
everything from 
the Joomla directory up to my document root?  Any other
suggestions?  
Thanks,

Bill

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Bill Kamm wkamm-at-rvyriptide.org |nyphp mambo list 022005|
wrote:

>I'm new to Joomla and have what I think is a basic
question, but I can't 
>find a good answer anywhere.  I have an existing web
site, at 
>mydomain.com.  My homepage is mydomain.com/index.php. 
Now I want to 
>install Joomla, and take my time learning it while my
existing web site 
>stays in place.  So I install Joomla into a
subdirectory, and I can 
>access it at mydomain.com/joomla/index.php, without
anybody else knowing 
>about it.  That's fine until my Joomla site is ready to
go live.  I 
>don't want users to have to go to mydomain.com/joomla,
so how can I get 
>my Joomla site to show up when visitors go to
mydomain.com?  Do I use 
>.htaccess?  (I don't want the 'joomla' address
appearing in the 
>browser's address field if I can help it.)  Do I copy
everything from 
>the Joomla directory up to my document root?  Any other
suggestions?  
>Thanks,
>
>Bill
>  
>
I'm sure the Joomla experts will chime, but in the mean
time I can offer 
some basic tips.

It should be trivial to migrate from a Joomla install in a
subdir to 
have it as your default site. You can either put a redirect
in yourself 
or via .htaccess with RewriteBase or Joomla can take care of
it through 
the base directory definition.  But you should consider that
subdir name 
carefully, since it may be "permanently"
reflected in your sites URLs.

So in the future your joomla site can be made accessible at 
www.whatever.tld but deeper content might look like 
www.whatever.tld/joomla/article.html

Therefore choose your dirname carefully. If you site is
about widgets 
you might install joomla into a widgets folder so future
URLs are like 
www.whatever.tld/widgets/article.html

Of course there are re-write add ons that allow you to
rewrite your URLs 
just about however you want, so using those you can
eliminate that extra 
subdir from your urls. That's your choice. There is some
benefit to 
keepin gthe URLs shallow, and some benefit to keping
important thematic 
keywords in your URL.

If you are planning to do your development on that live
server (in a 
"secret"subdir), you should take some steps to
keep it unknown until you 
are ready to launch it. Add the joomla directory to your
robotx.txt with 
an exclusion, to keep the legitimate search engines from
publicising 
your content in their results pages. be sure explicitly list
your https 
content as well  if you have it SSL access enabled. You may
also want to 
install Deny from all/Allow from your IP via Apache to
actually keep 
them from indexing your content, and to keep the
poorly-behaved bots 
from accessing (more and more of an issue these days).

Personally if you have access to your Apache/shared hosting
I would 
setup a separate domain for the trial, install at root
level, and 
develop such that you can easily migrate it to another
domain name 
instead of doing it on your existing domain.

-=john andrews
http://www.seo-fun.com
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sorry for the typos... that was robots.txt and the rest
should be 
obvious typos.


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You can quite simply set it up the way you want. Migrating
the entire  
install to the root public directory is quite simple. The
only thing  
you should be careful to avoid are using absolute urls.


On Mar 7, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Bill Kamm wrote:

> I'm new to Joomla and have what I think is a basic
question, but I  
> can't
> find a good answer anywhere.  I have an existing web
site, at
> mydomain.com.  My homepage is mydomain.com/index.php. 
Now I want to
> install Joomla, and take my time learning it while my
existing web  
> site
> stays in place.  So I install Joomla into a
subdirectory, and I can
> access it at mydomain.com/joomla/index.php, without
anybody else  
> knowing
> about it.  That's fine until my Joomla site is ready
to go live.  I
> don't want users to have to go to mydomain.com/joomla,
so how can I  
> get
> my Joomla site to show up when visitors go to
mydomain.com?  Do I use
> .htaccess?  (I don't want the 'joomla' address
appearing in the
> browser's address field if I can help it.)  Do I copy
everything from
> the Joomla directory up to my document root?  Any other
suggestions?
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
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