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Joomla's capacity for number of registered and simultaneous users?
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2007-05-20 01:31:22
A friend of mine who is a webmaster wants to use Joomla to
serve his 
membership of a not-for-profit trade organization. He had
some 
questions about Joomla, which I wasn't able to readily
produce metrics 
to properly answer him and ease his concerns. His main
concerns were 
about capacity. While I had a feeling Joomla would be able
to handle 
all his needs, I want to pass along some numbers to back up
my feeling.

Q: What is Joomla's capacity for the number of registered
users? Is 
this limited by the hardware resources, or is there a limit
that at 
some point either Joomla using MySQL can't handle it, or
performance 
greatly suffers? What might be that limit? A 100k? A
million? A 
billion? Limited by available disk space on device?

Q: What is Joomla's capacity to handle simultaneous users,
or is this 
limited by the hardware/OS resources?

It would also help to have some URLs of high traffic Joomla
web sites 
to pass along to him as an example.

Thanks!

David Roth
rothmailcomcast.net


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Re: Joomla's capacity for number of registered and simultaneous users?
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2007-05-22 16:50:03
On 5/20/07, David A. Roth <rothmailcomcast.net> wrote:
> A friend of mine who is a webmaster wants to use Joomla
to serve his
> membership of a not-for-profit trade organization. He
had some
> questions about Joomla, which I wasn't able to readily
produce metrics
> to properly answer him and ease his concerns. His main
concerns were
> about capacity. While I had a feeling Joomla would be
able to handle
> all his needs, I want to pass along some numbers to
back up my feeling.

I've personally been involved in Joomla-powered commerce
sites with
>350k pageviews daily, as well as some internal sites
with thousands
of user accounts. Joomla can scale, and with minimal effort
can scale
to a pretty big extreme.

> Q: What is Joomla's capacity for the number of
registered users? Is
> this limited by the hardware resources, or is there a
limit that at
> some point either Joomla using MySQL can't handle it,
or performance
> greatly suffers? What might be that limit? A 100k? A
million? A
> billion? Limited by available disk space on device?

Theoretically speaking, you're limited to your deployment
and how you
got MySQL setup.

>From real experience, you will exceed your threshold for
pain with the
admin interface well before you start pushing MySQL or
Joomla from an
infrastructure perspective.

For example, the last thing you want is a dropdown of
usernames when
you got >10,000 to cram in that list... hehe

> Q: What is Joomla's capacity to handle simultaneous
users, or is this
> limited by the hardware/OS resources?

Again, the limitations of the infrastructure are probably
rediculously
far out there to worry about. However, you will need to make
some
modifications in order to manage load-balancing, as well as
some
modifications to the default admin template in order to
manage that
much data.

Ultimately what becomes your biggest issue is how much you
rely on the
admin interface to manage such a large pile of stuff.
Remember that
one of the strengths of Joomla is its flexibility; and
you're free to
create your own admin template - and therefore also admin
"screens"
that are specific to the scale of your site's requirements.

> It would also help to have some URLs of high traffic
Joomla web sites
> to pass along to him as an example.

I've recently contributed memcache storage for both sessions
and
caching storage to the 1.5 tree, and combine that with some
simple
work to facilitate load-balanced environments, you can take
Joomla 1.5
to pretty big extremes.

I'm currently building a site based on the 1.5 framework
(not using
the CMS) for a site that gets around 40M pageviews every
week. Would
love to do a case study at a future NYPHP event if I pull it
off 

Once this is done, I'm starting up a high-traffic Joomla
group
specifically to deal with such issues, as there are a lot of
media
companies that are attracted to the attractive possibilities
of using
Joomla as their base platform - and I'd like to provide that
resource
to the community.

-- Mitch
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