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INSTALL thoughts
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2006-10-30 18:36:12
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, James K. Lowden wrote:
> 1.	"As is usual between releases, the i386 port
has had many improvements
> made to it--too many to detail all of them here."
>
> Couldn't we get '—' in there instead of the
typewriter's '--'
> convention?

It seems there's code in /usr/share/groff_font/devhtml/* to
turn 'em' into 
— but that's not used. I'm afraid I'm lost in
*roff... :(


> 2.  It's not clear to me if the xfont set is used by
the client or server.
> I want to support X clients, but I'm never going to run
a server on this
> box.

Right, that's unclear. As far as I understand it's only
needed on the X 
server side.


> 3.  It's not clear what install kernel I'd use on my
Soekris box with its
> serial console.

IIRC that's not a question of what kernel you use. You'd
need a bootloader 
that is enabled to use the serial console, and then have
that tell the 
kernel where the console is.

I'm not sure where to put this - maybe there should be a
seperate "how to 
install NetBSD on a Soekris" document? Anyone?


> 4.	"#( cd /usr/pkgsrc ; tar -zxpf - ) <
pkgsrc.tar.gz "
>
> Typographically, this command should be in boldface
(like the one above
> it).  But for my money it's over-fancy, confusing, and
old-fashioned.  I
> would say:
>
> 	# cd /usr/pkgsrc
> 	# pax -rzpe -f pkgsrc.tar.gz
> (or)	# tar -xzp  -f pkgsrc.tar.gz

Right, I've fixed this in two places...


> 6.  Under "Issues fixed by postinstall"
there's one bullet point, and if
> the indentation is taken literally (so to speak) it
would seem that the
> fixed issues include "The following issues need to
be resolved manually".
> This would be clearer if there were two headings: files
updated/created by
> postinstall, and those not.  As is, it's a bit clumsy.

I'm only looking at the -current install notes, and there
are two lists, 
one about "issues fixed by postinstall" (with
three bullets) and one 
listing "[t]he following issues need to be resolved
manually". The latter 
only has one item, but I guess that could be worse...


> 7.  The tone varies a bit from novice hand-holding to
> one-expert-to-another.  For example, "Change to
the /etc directory and
> take a look at the /etc/rc.conf file. Modify it to your
tastes" comes
> before mentioning that vi won't run without /usr being
mounted (and
> explaining how to do that, bravo).  And "More
complete documentation can
> be found in rc.conf(5)" comes before the section
that describes how the
> manual is organized and how to use man(1).  I'd be
willing to try to
> improve it.

That would be greatly appreciated. Please make sure you send
(unified) 
diffs against the files in src/distrib/notes/common (etc.)
on 
NetBSD-current.


> 8.  There's a claim that "We are planning future
support for many of these
> devices" beneath a list that includes QIC-40 and
QIC-80 tape drives.  Is
> it credible?

No.
The whole hardware list needs a LOT of work,
or just a bullet in the head... (the latter's easier IMHO).


> 9.  I am glad for the list of versions of 3rd party
software included.  I
> wish for a file /etc/3rd_party.txt (or a 3party(1) man
page) that
> documented them on installed systems.  It's not easy
(afaik) to discover
> what version of BIND or tcpdump is installed.

There's actually a file src/doc/3RDPARTY (as part of the
NetBSD Source).
It's not installed, though.


  - Hubert
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