Bash Configuration Question

First I would like to thank all of you for the
excellent answers. When I get home I will have to try
your suggestions. What an excellent community, which I
really appreciate as a noob!

This response from Michael raised another question.

--- Michael Bubb <michael.bubbgmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> I am by no means an expert on this but I had to
> figure out something
> similar a short while back...
> 
> The setenv command is for csh/tcsh. Use 'export'
> after assigning the variable.
> 
>  To set an env variable in bash do something like
> this
> 
> $ PKG_PATH="/usr/pkgsrc/"
> $ export PKG_PATH
> 
> and I believe it should work.
> 
> If bash is your login shell you can put the
> assigment and export
> statements into a .profile file.
> 
> all the best
> 
> Michael

I have read in the NetBSD Guide about installing the
pkgscr tree. It seems as if Michael is suggesting
setting my PKG_PATH to that downloaded tree instead of
the ftp site like the wiki suggested. So I wondered:

1. Is this a better method for installing programs in
NetBSD?

2. How does one download and install the pkgscr tree
after a base install? (I didn't find clear
instructions in the guide or the pkgscr guide on this
especially if I have simply a CLI.) It seems like
there isn't wget installed or even lynx.

3. I'm primarily intested in simply installing binary
packages, but when I use pkg_add with the ftp site as
the PKG_PATH resolve dependancies automatically or
does that only happen when you compile from the pkgscr
tree?

4. If I point the PKG_PATH to the pkgscr tree will it
work to download and install the binaries?

Sorry for all the questions by I'm trying to wrap my
head around the pkgscr and all of its programs. I have
read the pkgscr guide (the first part for those who
simply want to use the program installer, because at
this point I don't want to learn how to maintain and
submit my own packages).

Steve
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Hey Steve.

> I have read in the NetBSD Guide about installing the
> pkgscr tree. It seems as if Michael is suggesting
> setting my PKG_PATH to that downloaded tree instead of
> the ftp site like the wiki suggested. So I wondered:
>
> 1. Is this a better method for installing programs in
> NetBSD?

I have read his response and, to be honest, I think it may
have been a typo.  
The only way that should have worked was if the binary
packages were stored 
there.  They usually are under /usr/pkgsrc/packages/All if
they are on the 
local filesystem under /usr/pkgsrc.

> 2. How does one download and install the pkgscr tree
> after a base install? (I didn't find clear
> instructions in the guide or the pkgscr guide on this
> especially if I have simply a CLI.) It seems like
> there isn't wget installed or even lynx.

You can use ftp to grab the tarball

ftp
ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/pkgsrc-2006Q2/pkgsrc-2006Q2.
tar.gz

And then you use tar to unpack it where you want (cd /usr
tar xzvf pkgsrc-2006Q2.tar.gz)

The most common way (for me at least) is to use cvs to grab
it.  You'll want 
to read the page on upgrading to stable or current to fully
understand how to 
setup cvs (you need to set a couple variable to tell it what
to do at first).  
cvs checkout pkgsrc
or
cvs checkout -rpkgsrc-2006Q2 pkgsrc

The first command here will give you the current state of
pkgsrc.  The second 
will be the same as the tarball.  Once you use cvs you can
just update the 
thing with "cvs update -dP" from within
/usr/pkgsrc.

> 3. I'm primarily intested in simply installing binary
> packages, but when I use pkg_add with the ftp site as
> the PKG_PATH resolve dependancies automatically or
> does that only happen when you compile from the pkgscr
> tree?

They are automatically resolved and downloaded as long as
PKG_PATH is set 
correctly.  The only issue you'll have that may make you
seek pkgsrc is when 
the program you want isn't available as a pre-built
package.

> 4. If I point the PKG_PATH to the pkgscr tree will it
> work to download and install the binaries?

No.  Point it at the ftp site location you were going to
use.

> Sorry for all the questions by I'm trying to wrap my
> head around the pkgscr and all of its programs. I have
> read the pkgscr guide (the first part for those who
> simply want to use the program installer, because at
> this point I don't want to learn how to maintain and
> submit my own packages).

You're fine.  The cvs thing is confusing at first and I
missed it myself until 
I reread a lot of things.  I suspect you'll be very happy
with binary 
packages for now.  So set PKG_PATH to the ftp:// location
and just start 
installing away.

-Kevin

On 8/16/06, Kevin Brunelle <kruptosmlinux.org> wrote:
> Hey Steve.
>
> > I have read in the NetBSD Guide about installing
the
> > pkgscr tree. It seems as if Michael is suggesting
> > setting my PKG_PATH to that downloaded tree
instead of
> > the ftp site like the wiki suggested. So I
wondered:
> >
> > 1. Is this a better method for installing programs
in
> > NetBSD?
>
> I have read his response and, to be honest, I think it
may have been a typo.

Yes it was a late night typo - sorry for the confusion.

As for the cvs setup there is a nice explanation (showing
csh and bash
examples) in the pkgsrc guide:

http://netbsd.org/Documentation/pkgsrc/gettin
g.html#getting-via-cvs

Michael

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