powerbook duo 250 w/ duodock 57 mb ram 540 mb HD for loan to see if you can get it supported

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Hi,
 I hope this is the right place... I have a powerbook duo
250 with a
duodock and i check the hd is 540 MB and the ram say 57 megs
(odd, i
know) anyway I see it is a serial console only support
machine. Is there
a developer who would be interested in getting the port
running on this
machine? How do I get it to him / her?

Nick
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At 15:31 Uhr -0500 27.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
> I hope this is the right place... I have a powerbook
duo 250 with a
>duodock and i check the hd is 540 MB and the ram say 57
megs (odd, i
>know) anyway I see it is a serial console only support
machine.

I'd be surprised if booting to internal console were not
supported. Just
pick up the booter app and a NetBSD 3 install kernel, and
boot that. If the
installer is usable, you're set.

I have booted my Duo 280c to an xdm prompt, and with the
250's 68030 it
should be even easier.

	hauke

--
"It's never straight up and down"     (DEVO)

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How do you get a machine like this on an ethernet network?
slip or
something?

nick


Hauke Fath wrote:
> At 15:31 Uhr -0500 27.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
> 
>>I hope this is the right place... I have a powerbook
duo 250 with a
>>duodock and i check the hd is 540 MB and the ram say
57 megs (odd, i
>>know) anyway I see it is a serial console only
support machine.
> 
> 
> I'd be surprised if booting to internal console were
not supported. Just
> pick up the booter app and a NetBSD 3 install kernel,
and boot that. If the
> installer is usable, you're set.
> 
> I have booted my Duo 280c to an xdm prompt, and with
the 250's 68030 it
> should be even easier.
> 
> 	hauke
> 
> --
> "It's never straight up and down"    
(DEVO)
> 
> 
> 

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At 16:21 Uhr -0500 27.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
>How do you get a machine like this on an ethernet
network? slip or
>something?

slip, ppp.

A scsi-ethernet bridge requires support for the dock's
second 53c80 which
we don't have. A Nubus ethernet card in the dock requires
dock support
which we don't have, either.

	hauke

--
"It's never straight up and down"     (DEVO)

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I see. So, since it's been ages since I touched a machine
without
ethernet, could you possibly walk me through the steps
including cables,
etc? I would really, really appreciate it.

Nick

"All unix, all the time"

http://npt.ath.cx
http://npt.ath.cx/frees
hells/




Hauke Fath wrote:
> At 16:21 Uhr -0500 27.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
> 
>>How do you get a machine like this on an ethernet
network? slip or
>>something?
> 
> 
> slip, ppp.
> 
> A scsi-ethernet bridge requires support for the dock's
second 53c80 which
> we don't have. A Nubus ethernet card in the dock
requires dock support
> which we don't have, either.
> 
> 	hauke
> 
> --
> "It's never straight up and down"    
(DEVO)
> 
> 
> 

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At 16:50 Uhr -0500 27.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
>I see. So, since it's been ages since I touched a
machine without
>ethernet, could you possibly walk me through the steps
including cables,
>etc? I would really, really appreciate it.

Hm... I set up a slip connection years ago to install NetBSD
on an old '486
notebook, and I still have that around. I even thought about
writing a
how-to at the time, but never got around to doing it... give
me a few days,
ok? Tim Larson was first with his xdm setup...

	hauke

--
"It's never straight up and down"     (DEVO)

Hauke Fath wrote:
> Hm... I set up a slip connection years ago to install
NetBSD on an old '486
> notebook, and I still have that around. I even thought
about writing a
> how-to at the time, but never got around to doing it...
give me a few days,
> ok? Tim Larson was first with his xdm setup...

If you know of a good site that explains things at a
beginner level, 
that would probably be fine.  I don't mind learning on my
own, as long 
as I can follow the guide.  It's just that the first sites
that come up 
on Google (like the standard howtos) expect a certain level
of X 
competence that I don't quite have yet.

I've toyed with the idea of cleaning up the mac68k FAQs now
that I'm 
(mostly) done with the A/UX one, so anything that can be
done (like your 
xdm writeup) in such a way as to be directly included would
be GREAT. 
I'll probably end up reading the last 5 years worth of this
list's 
archives to get the FAQ up to date.


Tim

-- 
Tim & Alethea
christtrek.org

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Hauke Fath wrote:
> At 16:50 Uhr -0500 27.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
> 
>>I see. So, since it's been ages since I touched a
machine without
>>ethernet, could you possibly walk me through the
steps including cables,
>>etc? I would really, really appreciate it.
> 

That would be AWESOME especially if you can differentiate
between
hardware cable differences if it's say an old notebook with
no ethernet
but 9 pin serial, vs an old mac with whatever serial is on
it ( i know
nothing about pre g3 macs at all, i have a imac dv running
gentoo
gnu/linux but i don't think that will help. so yeah, a
howto for
beginners on slip / ppp to connect ethernet-less machines to
the net w/
some lookout for differences in cables needed for different
hardware,
would be AWESOME, and would deserve to be posted somewhere.
i have
hosting space if you need it, though i imagine there is a
better place
but I can definitely offer that. I run my own webserver and
I have a 5
Mbit connection. Anyway, THANK YOU, and talk to you soon...

also, does anyone know what this machine would be worth on
ebay? I am
going to keep it, I am just curious what a powerbook 250
with 540 mb hd
and 57 mb ram w/ duodock, keyboard + mouse, and 17" (I
think) nice color
monitor. ??

and one more thing: what is the final word? are these not
needed to be
borrowed anymore? I will definitely try to get it going, I
just don't
have any idea how to do it yet, as i have no experience w
68k macs nor
linux on them no serial connection to the net except with a
modem. 

nick


> 
> Hm... I set up a slip connection years ago to install
NetBSD on an old '486
> notebook, and I still have that around. I even thought
about writing a
> how-to at the time, but never got around to doing it...
give me a few days,
> ok? Tim Larson was first with his xdm setup...
> 
> 	hauke
> 
> --
> "It's never straight up and down"    
(DEVO)
> 
> 
> 

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nick thompson wrote:
> Hi,
>  I hope this is the right place... I have a powerbook
duo 250 with a
> duodock and i check the hd is 540 MB and the ram say 57
megs (odd, i
> know) anyway I see it is a serial console only support
machine. Is there
> a developer who would be interested in getting the port
running on this
> machine? How do I get it to him / her?
> 
> Nick

Hi, it's me again... so, from a developer.... (and if the
.de guy who
has been helping me and is writing me a slip / ppp / serial
console
connect to net w/ no ethernet on the machine is a dev or
almost dev ie
guru i apologize, anyway, does this machine need to be
borrowed to be
worked on? or no?

Nick

"All unix, all the time"

http://npt.ath.cx
http://npt.ath.cx/freesh
ells
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At 2:58 Uhr -0500 28.5.2006, nick thompson wrote:
>does this machine need to be borrowed to be
>worked on? or no?

Well, as I said: Grab the NetBSD Booter application and a
recent install
kernel from ftp.netbsd.org, and boot the latter. If it boots
into the
sysinst installer, no machine-specific work should be
necessary.

	hauke

--
"It's never straight up and down"     (DEVO)