installing on F40/E30

Hi people,

I'm trying to install NetBSD on both a F40 (7025) and an
E30 (7024), using 
netbooting. For now, I can get them to download anything
from the tftp 
server, so I guess there is little missing between me and an
install (at 
least, I hope so). 

The E30 had a defective ethernet, which I replaced for the
one on the F40 and 
now both machines can get to the tftp point. 

I don't have a serial cable, although I'm trying to
acquire one (nobody has 
one anymore, I'll probably have one made in an electronics
shop). 

My questions are:
 
 * Which image should I serve to them on the tftp server?
 * Must I provide a nfs root? 
 * Should my S3 Virge graphics card work on console mode (at
least), or do I 
really need a serial console?
 
Just as a note, I had to manually add the MAC to my
server's arp table or it 
would timeout before finishing the tftp.

Please forgive me if any of the questions have been answered
before, I did 
some searching and couldn't get good answers.


Thanks in advance,

Mauricio

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On 23-Aug-2006 Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
>  * Which image should I serve to them on the tftp
server?

You want the sysinist_com0 image (for serial port)

>  * Must I provide a nfs root?

Not required for installation.

>  * Should my S3 Virge graphics card work on console
mode (at least), or do I 
> really need a serial console?

Theoretically it might work with the non-com0 image, but I
wouldn't hold my
breath.


Once you netboot the sysinst_com0.fs image, it will just
boot straight into the
installer, and you can begin the steps to install normally.

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Tim Rightnour <rootgarbled.net>
NetBSD: Free multi-architecture OS http://www.netbsd.org/
Genecys: Open Source 3D MMORPG: http://www.genecys.org/

A brief follow-up:

 - Got NetBSD running on the E30, no X installed
 - Used the sysinst_com0.fs (by netbooting) from NetBSD 4 -
daily (I think it 
was Aug 19th one)
 - I needed a serial cable, because the graphics card does
not work in NetBSD
 - When I rebooted it, I had to manually tell it to use
/dev/sd0b (it was 
trying to boot from the swap partition, which is /dev/sd0a).

For the last item, should I reinstall it to make / the first
partition, or 
where do I change the bootloader to boot automagically from
the correct 
partition?

I'd like to thanks the NetBSD folks, in special Tim, for
supporting such a 
beautiful release.

Cheers,

Pilla

On Wednesday 23 August 2006 15:32, Tim Rightnour wrote:
> On 23-Aug-2006 Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
> >  * Which image should I serve to them on the tftp
server?
>
> You want the sysinist_com0 image (for serial port)
>
> >  * Must I provide a nfs root?
>
> Not required for installation.
>
> >  * Should my S3 Virge graphics card work on
console mode (at least), or
> > do I really need a serial console?
>
> Theoretically it might work with the non-com0 image,
but I wouldn't hold my
> breath.
>
>
> Once you netboot the sysinst_com0.fs image, it will
just boot straight into
> the installer, and you can begin the steps to install
normally.
>
> ---
> Tim Rightnour <rootgarbled.net>
> NetBSD: Free multi-architecture OS http://www.netbsd.org/
> Genecys: Open Source 3D MMORPG: http://www.genecys.org/

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Mauricio Lima Pilla                           pillaucpel.tche.br
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"I'm just very selective about the reality I choose
to accept."
                                                        --
Calvin

On 24-Aug-2006 Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
>  - When I rebooted it, I had to manually tell it to use
/dev/sd0b (it was 
> trying to boot from the swap partition, which is
/dev/sd0a).

Umm.. huh?  Did you change the partition orders in sysinst
when installing, or
did the installer do that all by itself?

> For the last item, should I reinstall it to make / the
first partition, or 
> where do I change the bootloader to boot automagically
from the correct 
> partition?

The standard in BSD is to allways have root on
"a" and swap on "b".  On-disk
order doesn't matter, and technically, niether does the
name.. but there is a
chance certain things might assume things one way or
another.

You can probably fix that just by editing the disklabel and
swapping the a and
b lines around, and then swapping the letters.  Also make
sure the partition
type is set on each correctly.  / should be 4.2BSD and swap
should be "swap".


---
Tim Rightnour <rootgarbled.net>
NetBSD: Free multi-architecture OS http://www.netbsd.org/
Genecys: Open Source 3D MMORPG: http://www.genecys.org/

On Thursday 24 August 2006 14:15, you wrote:
> On 24-Aug-2006 Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote:
> >  - When I rebooted it, I had to manually tell it
to use /dev/sd0b (it was
> > trying to boot from the swap partition, which is
/dev/sd0a).
>
> Umm.. huh?  Did you change the partition orders in
sysinst when installing,
> or did the installer do that all by itself?

I've manually chosen first swap, then root (I'm more
acquainted with Linux, 
and there it doesn't make any difference). 

>
> > For the last item, should I reinstall it to make /
the first partition,
> > or where do I change the bootloader to boot
automagically from the
> > correct partition?
>
> The standard in BSD is to allways have root on
"a" and swap on "b". 
> On-disk order doesn't matter, and technically, niether
does the name.. but
> there is a chance certain things might assume things
one way or another.
>
> You can probably fix that just by editing the disklabel
and swapping the a
> and b lines around, and then swapping the letters. 
Also make sure the
> partition type is set on each correctly.  / should be
4.2BSD and swap
> should be "swap".
OK. I'll try it. 


Thanks again,

Pilla


>
>
> ---
> Tim Rightnour <rootgarbled.net>
> NetBSD: Free multi-architecture OS http://www.netbsd.org/
> Genecys: Open Source 3D MMORPG: http://www.genecys.org/

-- 
Mauricio Lima Pilla                           pillaucpel.tche.br
PPGINF -- ESIN/UCPEL
http://g3pd.ucpel.tc
he.br/~pilla
key 0x37705BE0

"I'm just very selective about the reality I choose
to accept."
                                                        --
Calvin