Xen screenshots

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Magnus Eriksson wrote:
>  Hmm, I don't know.  Just taking a quick look, I
can't really tell Xen is 
> involved at all.  Yes, of course I know it is, it's
just not very obvious. So 
> it would seem a poor choice for something like
Wikipedia...

I guess this boils down to the question "how DO you
show off Xen"?


  - Hubert

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Magnus Eriksson wrote:
>  Hmm, I don't know.  Just taking a quick look, I
can't really tell Xen is 
> involved at all.  Yes, of course I know it is, it's
just not very obvious. So 
> it would seem a poor choice for something like
Wikipedia...

I guess this boils down to the question "how DO you
show off Xen"?


  - Hubert

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:30:04PM +0200, Hubert Feyrer
wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Magnus Eriksson wrote:
> > Hmm, I don't know.  Just taking a quick look, I
can't really tell Xen is 
> >involved at all.  Yes, of course I know it is,
it's just not very obvious. 
> >So it would seem a poor choice for something like
Wikipedia...
> 
> I guess this boils down to the question "how DO
you show off Xen"?

You probably need a rigged demo for PHBs.
I mean how did IBM market VM when it first came out?
Ditto for IBM marketing LPARs on the first mainframes with
it
and the first RS/6Ks with it.
(Actually, whatever they did for marketing on the LPARable
RS/6Ks back around 2002 is a great idea...  It sold hardware
at an order of magnitude higher price to a bank).
-- 
Chris Dukes
"The key to effective management is properly timed
hovering."

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Hubert Feyrer wrote:

> I guess this boils down to the question "how DO
you show off Xen"?

   I address that point in my first post.  

   Seriously, anything that shows a couple of
"typical" desktops, and where 
you clearly can see different OS names, I guess.  Like a
GNOME/KDE session 
and an xterm showing "uname -a" in each
VNC/whatever window.  (That 
shouldn't be *all* there is, obviously.  We want to show
off NetBSD too.)


MAgnus

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Hubert Feyrer wrote:

> I guess this boils down to the question "how DO
you show off Xen"?

   I address that point in my first post.  

   Seriously, anything that shows a couple of
"typical" desktops, and where 
you clearly can see different OS names, I guess.  Like a
GNOME/KDE session 
and an xterm showing "uname -a" in each
VNC/whatever window.  (That 
shouldn't be *all* there is, obviously.  We want to show
off NetBSD too.)


MAgnus

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 02:12:08PM +0200, Magnus Eriksson
wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Hubert Feyrer wrote:
> 
> >I guess this boils down to the question "how
DO you show off Xen"?
> 
>   I address that point in my first post.  
> 
>   Seriously, anything that shows a couple of
"typical" desktops, and where 
> you clearly can see different OS names, I guess.  Like
a GNOME/KDE session 
> and an xterm showing "uname -a" in each
VNC/whatever window.  (That 
> shouldn't be *all* there is, obviously.  We want to
show off NetBSD too.)

And maybe some monitors a la sysutils/xenconsole on the
dom0.  

	Geert

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 02:12:08PM +0200, Magnus Eriksson
wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Hubert Feyrer wrote:
> 
> >I guess this boils down to the question "how
DO you show off Xen"?
> 
>   I address that point in my first post.  
> 
>   Seriously, anything that shows a couple of
"typical" desktops, and where 
> you clearly can see different OS names, I guess.  Like
a GNOME/KDE session 
> and an xterm showing "uname -a" in each
VNC/whatever window.  (That 
> shouldn't be *all* there is, obviously.  We want to
show off NetBSD too.)

I have a computer on my very desk currently running Xen with
a Linux
dom0 and a Windows XP domU.  I access the later from my
NetBSD station
through rdesktop.  And for the story to be complete, I'm
working on
extending the qemu backend to the domU to share memory
between the two
domains.

Yet I have no idea what kind of screenshot I could take
that'd show off
anything about the setup (granted, that would not be about
NetBSD, but
YKWIM).

-- 
Quentin Garnier - cubecubidou.net - cubeNetBSD.org
"When I find the controls, I'll go where I like,
I'll know where I want
to be, but maybe for now I'll stay right here on a silent
sea."
KT Tunstall, Silent Sea, Eye to the Telescope, 2004.

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:30:04PM +0200, Hubert Feyrer
wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Magnus Eriksson wrote:
> > Hmm, I don't know.  Just taking a quick look, I
can't really tell Xen is 
> >involved at all.  Yes, of course I know it is,
it's just not very obvious. 
> >So it would seem a poor choice for something like
Wikipedia...
> 
> I guess this boils down to the question "how DO
you show off Xen"?

You probably need a rigged demo for PHBs.
I mean how did IBM market VM when it first came out?
Ditto for IBM marketing LPARs on the first mainframes with
it
and the first RS/6Ks with it.
(Actually, whatever they did for marketing on the LPARable
RS/6Ks back around 2002 is a great idea...  It sold hardware
at an order of magnitude higher price to a bank).
-- 
Chris Dukes
"The key to effective management is properly timed
hovering."

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Hubert Feyrer wrote:

> I guess this boils down to the question "how DO
you show off Xen"?

   I address that point in my first post.  

   Seriously, anything that shows a couple of
"typical" desktops, and where 
you clearly can see different OS names, I guess.  Like a
GNOME/KDE session 
and an xterm showing "uname -a" in each
VNC/whatever window.  (That 
shouldn't be *all* there is, obviously.  We want to show
off NetBSD too.)


MAgnus

On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 02:12:08PM +0200, Magnus Eriksson
wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006, Hubert Feyrer wrote:
> 
> >I guess this boils down to the question "how
DO you show off Xen"?
> 
>   I address that point in my first post.  
> 
>   Seriously, anything that shows a couple of
"typical" desktops, and where 
> you clearly can see different OS names, I guess.  Like
a GNOME/KDE session 
> and an xterm showing "uname -a" in each
VNC/whatever window.  (That 
> shouldn't be *all* there is, obviously.  We want to
show off NetBSD too.)

And maybe some monitors a la sysutils/xenconsole on the
dom0.  

	Geert