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2006-11-30 22:14:16 |
I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server for myself; those
two
MBs have been suggested. The machine is not heavily loaded,
but
I plan to base the new system on Xen with dedicated VMs for
things
like web+mailman, dns, experimentation, etc. Any comments
on how
well these would work, and in particular support for the
Ethernet
and disk controllers? (The big advantage of the first one
is the
VT support, so that I can run things like FreeBSD which
don't have
DomU code. I'll probably get 2G of RAM, and dual 300G SATA
drives
in a RAIDframe configuration.
I may run -current; more likely, it will be 4.0beta moving
towards
4.0, since it's a production server.
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbi
a.edu/~smb
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2006-11-30 22:48:56 |
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin
wrote:
> I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server for myself;
those two
> MBs have been suggested.
I think you forgot to name the motherboards ...
--
Manuel Bouyer <bouyer antioche.eu.org>
NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la
difference
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2006-11-30 22:48:56 |
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin
wrote:
> I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server for myself;
those two
> MBs have been suggested.
I think you forgot to name the motherboards ...
--
Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org>
NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la
difference
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2006-11-30 23:05:56 |
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:48:56 +0100
Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Steven M.
Bellovin wrote:
> > I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server for
myself; those two
> > MBs have been suggested.
>
> I think you forgot to name the motherboards ...
>
Oops!
http://www.supermicro.com/products/mother
board/Xeon3000/3010/PDSME+.cfm
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/
P4/E7221/P8SCi.cfm
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbi
a.edu/~smb
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2006-11-30 23:05:56 |
On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:48:56 +0100
Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Steven M.
Bellovin wrote:
> > I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server for
myself; those two
> > MBs have been suggested.
>
> I think you forgot to name the motherboards ...
>
Oops!
http://www.supermicro.com/products/mother
board/Xeon3000/3010/PDSME+.cfm
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/
P4/E7221/P8SCi.cfm
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbi
a.edu/~smb
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2006-11-30 23:29:01 |
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 06:05:56PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin
wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:48:56 +0100
> Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Steven
M. Bellovin wrote:
> > > I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server
for myself; those two
> > > MBs have been suggested.
> >
> > I think you forgot to name the motherboards ...
> >
>
> Oops!
>
> http://www.supermicro.com/products/mother
board/Xeon3000/3010/PDSME+.cfm
> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/
P4/E7221/P8SCi.cfm
OK. I'm not sure the 82573 ethernet works fine with NetBSD,
but I'm
not sure about the broadcom either.
VT support is definitively a plus for Xen, I can't live
without it any more 
Both have an AHCI SATA controller, but the PDSME+ is 3.0Gb/s
(ws 1.5Gb/s for
the P8SCi). Also, the PDSME+ takes DDR2-667Mhz memory, vs
553 for the P8SCi.
I would go with the PDSME+
--
Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org>
NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la
difference
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2006-11-30 23:29:01 |
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 06:05:56PM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin
wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:48:56 +0100
> Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500, Steven
M. Bellovin wrote:
> > > I'm getting ready to build a new 1U server
for myself; those two
> > > MBs have been suggested.
> >
> > I think you forgot to name the motherboards ...
> >
>
> Oops!
>
> http://www.supermicro.com/products/mother
board/Xeon3000/3010/PDSME+.cfm
> http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/
P4/E7221/P8SCi.cfm
OK. I'm not sure the 82573 ethernet works fine with NetBSD,
but I'm
not sure about the broadcom either.
VT support is definitively a plus for Xen, I can't live
without it any more
Both have an AHCI SATA controller, but the PDSME+ is 3.0Gb/s
(ws 1.5Gb/s for
the P8SCi). Also, the PDSME+ takes DDR2-667Mhz memory, vs
553 for the P8SCi.
I would go with the PDSME+
--
Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org>
NetBSD: 26 ans d'experience feront toujours la
difference
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2006-12-01 01:06:38 |
> Both have an AHCI SATA controller, but the PDSME+ is
3.0Gb/s (ws 1.5Gb/s for
> the P8SCi).
speaking for the more general case, is there a good resource
for
supported and unsupported SATA controllers in netbsd? Are
there
chipsets that are better or worse for use as a xen dom0
running
netbsd?
--david
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2006-12-01 01:06:38 |
> Both have an AHCI SATA controller, but the PDSME+ is
3.0Gb/s (ws 1.5Gb/s for
> the P8SCi).
speaking for the more general case, is there a good resource
for
supported and unsupported SATA controllers in netbsd? Are
there
chipsets that are better or worse for use as a xen dom0
running
netbsd?
--david
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2006-12-01 03:37:14 |
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 00:29:01 +0100
Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 06:05:56PM -0500, Steven M.
Bellovin wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:48:56 +0100
> > Manuel Bouyer <bouyerantioche.eu.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 05:14:16PM -0500,
Steven M. Bellovin
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm getting ready to build a new 1U
server for myself; those two
> > > > MBs have been suggested.
> > >
> > > I think you forgot to name the motherboards
...
> > >
> >
> > Oops!
> >
> > http://www.supermicro.com/products/mother
board/Xeon3000/3010/PDSME+.cfm
> > http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/
P4/E7221/P8SCi.cfm
>
> OK. I'm not sure the 82573 ethernet works fine with
NetBSD, but I'm
> not sure about the broadcom either.
The 82573E and 82573L are listed in pcidevs, as is the
Broadcom 5721,
so they *should* work. The question is whether or not they
do....
> VT support is definitively a plus for Xen, I can't live
without it
> any more
What, precisely, does VT buy me? I know that it lets me run
non-Xen
guest OSs. Does it help with performance when running a
NetBSD DomU?
>
> Both have an AHCI SATA controller, but the PDSME+ is
3.0Gb/s (ws
> 1.5Gb/s for the P8SCi). Also, the PDSME+ takes
DDR2-667Mhz memory, vs
> 553 for the P8SCi.
>
> I would go with the PDSME+
>
If it works (and I haven't yet checked the price
difference...)
--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbi
a.edu/~smb
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