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Thread: Request for MODs
Request for MODs
user name
 2006-10-27 22:13:44 

  


  

    

well,


 


Your an ISP, as such your needs/what you can get away 
with is different than mine who's a lot heavier on 
corporate.


 


Friends system - you like it, it's mostly a bane for 
me, you can put the burden on the customer - I cannot.


 


Same for SPF


 


Centpipaid - never bothered to look at 
it.


 


For me, I've got so many things going on I need 
something that I can set up and mostly forget about, until it comes time for 
maintenance or tweaking.


 


 






From: webmaster1usa.com 
[mailto:webmaster1usa.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:07 
PM
To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
Subject: [SurgeMail 
List] Request for MODs 





For ChrisP:


Requested MOD #1:


Sometimes the outbound Mail Queue builds up of 
certain spammer domains.


The Mail Queue should be set to 8 hrs to 16 hrs for 
normal emails, but if it's an outbound Friends-Request or CentiPaid request then 
expire in 1 hour after 2 tries.


Would it be possible to have a setting for # of 
outbound Friends-Request & CentiPaid attempts?


 


Requested MOD #2:


It would be nice if Spam Filter Rules page (If 
contains... bad words... action... Destination-Reason) would contain an 
auto-expire date also.


Reason:  Many spammers use various IP's 
and domain names for a short period of time; sometimes days or weeks.  Over 
time the filter page can grow large with obsolete entries.  


Also, while the spam emails can be blocked by 
putting their IP's into an RBL, it too is permanent; then almost impossible to 
remove later should a legit company obtain that IP 2 years from now.  
Sometimes the spamming IP's are only from .200 on up, not the whole 
/24.


Particularly, I would like to "drop", or better yet 
put "Payment Required" into the rule; having the rule auto-expire in 30 
days.


 


Requested MOD #3:


Another way of doing this:


Instead of blocking the spammers and becoming an 
adversary, charge them for network usage.  (Verizon and the other phone 
companies are moving towards charging for bandwidth, and may someday also charge 
per-email.)


Force a CentiPaid based on sender's IP.  
(CentiPaid currently adds the sender to the customer's Friends list. ; 
CentiPaids should be in a separate Class instead.


 


To keep the size down of "excessive number of 
rules" in mfilter.rul & friends.rul, we've moved to setting up our own 
home-grown RBLs here.


1USA already has an RBL for blocks and another to 
force Friends-Requests (if an email is received from a 84.22.233.*  /24 
block.


Spamhaus and other RBL's return a 127.0.0.2 thru 
127.0.0.9 return code.


If the IP address were listed in the home-grown RBL 
as 127.0.0.99, and if Surgemail could detect the .99 and generate an action; 
choices would be Block with User Not Found, Drop, Call CentiPaid -- then if the 
outbound email sits in the queue for 2 tries then Drop it.


(The root of the problem is that some spammers put 
an MX entry in their DNS pointing to Microsoft, Earthlink, etc. causing a Denial 
of Service attack on an innocent bystander) (which in turn creates other 
problems)


 


Requested MOD #4:


Problem:  Centipaid Notices are currently 
 Bounces, not fresh emails.  Most ISPs limit the text of a bounce to 
their customers.  (mostly to limint virus bounce infections)  Most 
ISPs have long paragraphs of text... and bury the real error somewhere in 
between.  


It would be much better to have the outbound 
Centipaid emails be a separate email, like the Friends-Requests.  How about 
reprogramming to give the Admin a CHOICE of reject or new email?


 


In addition to these proposals by ChrisP, I 
would like some feedback from the rest of you guys & gals here 
too.


While some of you choose to not block anything at 
all, I remind you that 1USA picked up thousands of customers from 
Verizon and other ISPs when we implemented server-side anti-virus on the day 
that the Melissa virus came out in May 1998; and Verizon didn't implement 
anti-virus until 2001. ; Verizon customers were dropping like flies, and 
switching to 1USA to be protected.


The same can happen in the future, or vice versa, 
if Verizon and the other phone companies start charging extra for bandwidth or 
on a per-email basis.  If the Centipaid system were totally separate & 
based on sender's IP, it would be a great selling feature of Surgemail and the 
Admins.


 


BarryZ


1USA


 

  

  
  
   
     
    






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