Dlist variable not delivering the correct information

I need to created a standard HTML footer for a number of
email lists 
that I run on Surgremail but the variables LIST_NAME,
LIST-NAME and LIST 
deliver the list's full email address rather than just the
name.  Is 
anyone else seeing this issue.  I'm running the 38f3.

thanks

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wayne Gregori
wgsfnet.com
www.sfnet.com

Wayne Gregori wrote:
> I need to created a standard HTML footer for a number
of email lists 
> that I run on Surgremail but the variables LIST_NAME,
LIST-NAME and LIST 
> deliver the list's full email address rather than just
the name.  Is 
> anyone else seeing this issue.  I'm running the 38f3.
> 
> thanks
> 

DLIST has had screwy values for almost all of the variables
for as long 
as I have used it. My earlier complaints to NetWin must have
sounded 
like whines and were ignored. :-(

Specifically, for a list called test-listeton.ca:

list_member= proper email address of member
h_user= proper email address of member
list_request_address= test-list-requesteton.ca
list-request= test-list-requesteton.ca
list_address= test-listeton.ca
h_fullname= correct name of member
list_name= test-listeton.ca
list= test-listeton.ca
list-name= test-listeton.ca

SurgeMail Version 3.8f2-2, Built Nov  8 2006 12:21:35,
Platform Windows

-- 
Neil Herber
Corporate info at http://www.eton.ca/

Hi ,

For historical reasons list-name and list_name used to be
just the list part of the name, e.g. (test) if the list is
testyour.domain, but when
domain support was added the name then included the full
address (testyour.domain), and several list variables
ended up duplicated with  minor variations due to a mix up
in the original documentation (the docs described the wrong
variables so we added those so the docs would be 'true')


We don't wish to modify the existing variables since people
probably now rely on them being what they are.

There is a variable for the list title:
	list_title
if you really need a variable that has the value of just the
list name without the domain let us know and we'll add a new
variable with this value so as not to conflict with any
existing one.  

If I've mis understood and you want a variable with
something else please give me an example of what you want
and I'll see if we can add one to handle that. 

                     
           ChrisP


Neil Herber (nospam) wrote on Monday, January 29, 2007 at
1:08 p.m. (-0500):
>Wayne Gregori wrote:
>> I need to created a standard HTML footer for a
number of email lists 
>> that I run on Surgremail but the variables
LIST_NAME, LIST-NAME and LIST 
>> deliver the list's full email address rather than
just the name.  Is 
>> anyone else seeing this issue.  I'm running the
38f3.
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>
>DLIST has had screwy values for almost all of the
variables for as long 
>as I have used it. My earlier complaints to NetWin must
have sounded 
>like whines and were ignored. :-(
>
>Specifically, for a list called test-listeton.ca:
>
>list_member= proper email address of member
>h_user= proper email address of member
>list_request_address= test-list-requesteton.ca
>list-request= test-list-requesteton.ca
>list_address= test-listeton.ca
>h_fullname= correct name of member
>list_name= test-listeton.ca
>list= test-listeton.ca
>list-name= test-listeton.ca
>
>SurgeMail Version 3.8f2-2, Built Nov  8 2006 12:21:35,
Platform Windows
>
>-- 
>Neil Herber
>Corporate info at http://www.eton.ca/
>
>

Hey Barry

Much to my surprise, the undocumented list_title variable
actually works 
in current versions. I sent a reply to ChrisP suggesting
adding it to 
the docs, but I forgot to send the reply to this list.

So in your case use:

 > <intro> This message was posted to the
<list_title> group:

You may want to tune the wording based on the Title.

Note that the description on the GUI page for mailing lists
says Title 
is "A title for the list, shown in headers and lists
output." This is 
false as far as I can tell - the Title is NOT emitted in the
headers.

Neil

webmaster1usa.com wrote:
> Hey Neil, in addition to your proposed, please add to
your wishlist a 
> variable named Description.... so that a List Footer
can contain the 
> Title and Description... making it clearer to the end
users.  Example
>  
> <html><body>
> <intro> This message was posted to the
<listname_Title> group:
>  
> blah
> blah
> more blah
> - - - -
> <footer>To subscribe to the Daily Digest version,
do this... <link>
> List Description:  This <listname> list is for
advanced novices to learn 
> the correct way that bugs bunny says "what a
maroon!"
> </html>
>  
> .02?
> BarryZ
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From Support
ChrisP <mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com>
> *To
surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
<mailto:surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> *Cc Neil Herber
(nospam) <mailto:nospameton.ca>
> *Sent Tuesday,
January 30, 2007 6:12 PM
> *Subject Re:
[SurgeMail List] Dlist variable not delivering the 
> correct information
> 
> Hi ,
> 
> For historical reasons list-name and list_name used to
be just the list 
> part of the name, e.g. (test) if the list is testyour.domain 
> <mailto:testyour.domain>, but when
> domain support was added the name then included the
full address 
> (testyour.domain <mailto:testyour.domain>), and
several list variables 
> ended up duplicated with  minor variations due to a mix
up in the 
> original documentation (the docs described the wrong
variables so we 
> added those so the docs would be 'true') 
> 
> We don't wish to modify the existing variables since
people probably now 
> rely on them being what they are.
> 
> There is a variable for the list title:
> list_title
> if you really need a variable that has the value of
just the list name 
> without the domain let us know and we'll add a new
variable with this 
> value so as not to conflict with any existing one. 
> 
> If I've mis understood and you want a variable with
something else 
> please give me an example of what you want and I'll see
if we can add 
> one to handle that.
> 
>                     
>            ChrisP
> 
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-- 
Neil Herber
Corporate info at http://www.eton.ca/