Kevin
I'm shooting in the dark here, because I don't know how you
have your
gateway machine and SurgeMail set up.
My understanding is that for things to work their best,
Netwin
recommends having SM as the gateway machine - the one facing
the internet.
You may need to tweak the SPF settings, and the ones I would
look at are
g_spf_enforce_local and g_spf_skip. But really, the best bet
would be to
send your ini file to Netwin and have them comment on the
SPF related
settings.
Wish I could be more helpful!
Neil
Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
> Neil,
>
> I agree there is a problem. I understand SPF to be MX
related. The IP you
> saw was the client machine, running outlook 12 and
sending through our
> internal server (to an internal account). The internal
server should not be
> checking our clients for SPF records (so I've set
something wrong - but
> what?). The SPF records are for servers checking to see
if mail sent to
> them is from our gateway server. Not what client can
send mail through
> surgemail.
>
> How do I clear this confusion up? I have smtp
authentication active...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> Kevin
>>
>> If this mail is all internal to your network, then
there is something
>> wrong with your SPF records.
>>
>> Note that one of the biggest hits in the spam score
is "SPF Fail=8.0".
>>
>> The SPF record for cnc.bc.ca only allows the
declared MXes and fails all
>> others. The declared MX is avas.cnc.bc.ca
142.27.70.214. But the
>> rejected mail is showing an IP of 142.27.64.23.
>>
>> So either I am very confused about what goes where,
or something is
>> wrong in SPFville.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
>>> Not his account but one of the recipients did
have a very low setting
>>> that was causing it to be rejected. Thanks for
pointing me in the right
>>> direction.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>>> That would be the spam settings option for
their account. They
>>>> probably set their reject option on or too
low.
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 23, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Kevin W. Gagel
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> Kevin W. Gagel wrote:
>>>>>>> I activated the spam features
for my users a couple of months back
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> have just come accross a
complaint that a user cannot send email to
>>>>>>> another user. The system is
detecting his message as a spam message
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> will not allow it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do I go about tracking down
the root cause of the problem?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the user authenticating to your
server? If not, that could flag
>>>>>> the email as fraudulent depending
on other settings you may have
>>>>>> configured.
>>>>> The user is using outlook 2003. I just
had him do a check for mail and
>>>>> then
>>>>> try sending it again. It still fails.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is what the log says on this
attempt to send:
>>>>> 23 14:33:17[199934] Failed 142.X.X.23
<XXX cnc.bc.ca> <BBB cnc.bc.ca>
>>>>> 3079
>>>>> <001401c785ef$0d331d00$27995700$ bc.ca>
"[142.X.X.23] Bounced *******:
>>>>> 7.488889 From3consonants=0.5, SPF
Fail=8.0, X-Verify-SMTP present=0.6,
>>>>> Aspam=-1.6"
>>>>> 23 14:33:17[199934] Failed 142.X.X.23
<XXX cnc.bc.ca> <CCC cnc.bc.ca>
>>>>> 3079
>>>>> <001401c785ef$0d331d00$27995700$ bc.ca>
"[142.27.64.23] Message looks
>>>>> like
>>>>> spam, sorry not wanted here
q=199934"
>>>>>
>>>>> In all there were four recipients, the
logs indicate a problem only
>>>>> with
>>>>> the two that were on the To: line. The
two that were on the CC line
>>>>> are not
>>>>> mentioned in the logs.
--
Neil Herber
Corporate info at http://www.eton.ca/
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