Advanced Filtering

One of our clients discovered today that among the options
under 
Advanced/Webmail Filtering Rules she had been using for
customized 
spam filtering was no longer working.  When we looked into
it this 
was designated "obsolete" and it appears to have
been so since before 
June last year based on messages posted to the list.  The
filter 
rules she had set up there were found under
"Options" > "Filters and 
Exception" but these do not seem to be working.

The bottom line is it appears anyone who had set up filters
under the 
Webmail Filtering Rules has lost the filtering even though
the same 
rules appear to now be under Filters and Exceptions.

I am puzzled as to why this JUST surfaced.  And is it
possible the 
older rules defined under webmail filtering, even though
apparently 
moved to the Filters and Exeptions, might not be working
now?

I also saw a note from Marijn in June stating

"The next major release of webmail will not have the
webmail only 
filtering rules and will solely use the server "

Marijn, can you elaborate on this?  Are you saying local
user engaged 
filtering rules will no longer work?

> One of our clients discovered today that among the
options under
> Advanced/Webmail Filtering Rules she had been using for
customized spam
> filtering was no longer working.  When we looked into
it this was
> designated "obsolete" and it appears to have
been so since before June
> last year based on messages posted to the list.  The
filter rules she had
> set up there were found under "Options" >
"Filters and Exception" but
> these do not seem to be working.

Under what conditions are these not working? And
specifically what is not
working?

It is more that this functionality has been superceeded
rather than being
obsolete. All the filtering rules and webmail only spam
options get applied
when webmail gets executed and webmail actually sees a 
messages. Before 
this all the serverside spam processing and filtering will
have already been 
done though.

> The bottom line is it appears anyone who had set up
filters under the
> Webmail Filtering Rules has lost the filtering even
though the same rules
> appear to now be under Filters and Exceptions.

No filters should have automatically been copied across no.

> I am puzzled as to why this JUST surfaced.  And is it
possible the older
> rules defined under webmail filtering, even though
apparently moved to the
> Filters and Exeptions, might not be working now?

I would think this is the user experimenting with filters.
There should be 
no "copying across" of existing filters.

> "The next major release of webmail will not have
the webmail only
> filtering rules and will solely use the server "
>
> Marijn, can you elaborate on this?  Are you saying
local user engaged
> filtering rules will no longer work?

For the current webmail product both will definitely
continue to work. As to 
exactly how the next generation of webmail product
implements everything it 
has not been finalised.

Marijn




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From: "Orin Wells" <Orinwellsawasco.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 12:05 PM
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Subject: [SurgeMail List] Advanced Filtering

> One of our clients discovered today that among the
options under
> Advanced/Webmail Filtering Rules she had been using for
customized spam
> filtering was no longer working.  When we looked into
it this was
> designated "obsolete" and it appears to have
been so since before June
> last year based on messages posted to the list.  The
filter rules she had
> set up there were found under "Options" >
"Filters and Exception" but
> these do not seem to be working.
>
> The bottom line is it appears anyone who had set up
filters under the
> Webmail Filtering Rules has lost the filtering even
though the same rules
> appear to now be under Filters and Exceptions.
>
> I am puzzled as to why this JUST surfaced.  And is it
possible the older
> rules defined under webmail filtering, even though
apparently moved to the
> Filters and Exeptions, might not be working now?
>
> I also saw a note from Marijn in June stating
>
> "The next major release of webmail will not have
the webmail only
> filtering rules and will solely use the server "
>
> Marijn, can you elaborate on this?  Are you saying
local user engaged
> filtering rules will no longer work?
>
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