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Thread: Windows Live ID Phishing?
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| Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 07:59:36 |
I recently received:
_
Hello MyMacAddress mac.com:
You recently asked to reset your Windows Live ID password by
e-mail.
Follow the instructions below to reset your password, or to
cancel
your password reset request.
TO RESET YOUR PASSWORD:
1. Select and copy the following Internet address.
https://accountservices.msn.com/EmailPage.srf?e
mailid=ccdf9d92f71
[lots more clipped]
2. Open a browser, paste the link in the address bar, then
press
Enter or Return on your keyboard.
IF YOU DID NOT REQUEST TO RESET YOUR PASSWORD:
1. Select and copy the following Internet address.
https://accountservices.msn.com/EmailPage.srf?e
mailid=ccdf9d92f71
[lots more clipped]
_
I'm suspicious of this because:
1) I'm a Mac user. To my knowledge, I've never signed up for
a .NET
or Windows Live ID.
2) I didn't "recently ask to,reset" my password.
2) This was sent to my address at Mac.com.
3) Unlike most actual password reset mechanisms, this one
insists
that I have to do something even if I do not want to reset
my
password.
I've now received three of these. The first was on the 14th
and
headers look like this:
Return-path: <support passport.msn.com>
Received: from mac.com ([10.150.68.58])
by ms183.mac.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server
6.2-8.01 (built Nov 27
2006)) with ESMTP id <0JUO0001H3BOZH90 ms183.mac.com> for
MyMacAddress mac.com;
Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from servera01.blusmtp4.msn.com
(servera01.blusmtp.msn.com [65.55.238.140])
by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin058/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id
m0F44ZgM014752 for
<MyMacAddress mac.com>; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:35
-0800 (PST)
Received: from BAYPPBAT2B11 ([65.54.177.244]) by
servera01.blusmtp4.msn.com
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 14 Jan 2008
23:04:34 -0500
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:34 -0800
From: Microsoft Customer Support <support passport.msn.com>
Subject: Reset your Windows Live ID password
To: MyMacAddress mac.com
Message-id: <200801150404.m0F44ZgM014752 mac.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAgAAAUAAAAFU
X-Brightmail: Scanned
Original-recipient: rfc822; MyMacAddress mac.com
Is this a phishing expedition?
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| RE: Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 08:23:22 |
Did you ever have a Microsoft Messenger account, MSN
messenger account our
in the ancient days, configure a Microsoft Passport account?
I think
they've all been rolled into Windows Live ID.
Glenn Meadows
Sheridan Square Entertainment
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Michelsen [mailto:Warren MDCCLXXVI.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:00 AM
To: surgemail-list netwinsite.com
Subject: [SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?
I recently received:
_
Hello MyMacAddress mac.com:
You recently asked to reset your Windows Live ID password by
e-mail.
Follow the instructions below to reset your password, or to
cancel your
password reset request.
TO RESET YOUR PASSWORD:
1. Select and copy the following Internet address.
https://accountservices.msn.com/EmailPage.srf?e
mailid=ccdf9d92f71
[lots more clipped]
2. Open a browser, paste the link in the address bar, then
press Enter or
Return on your keyboard.
IF YOU DID NOT REQUEST TO RESET YOUR PASSWORD:
1. Select and copy the following Internet address.
https://accountservices.msn.com/EmailPage.srf?e
mailid=ccdf9d92f71
[lots more clipped]
_
I'm suspicious of this because:
1) I'm a Mac user. To my knowledge, I've never signed up for
a .NET or
Windows Live ID.
2) I didn't "recently ask to,reset" my password.
2) This was sent to my address at Mac.com.
3) Unlike most actual password reset mechanisms, this one
insists that I
have to do something even if I do not want to reset my
password.
I've now received three of these. The first was on the 14th
and headers look
like this:
Return-path: <support passport.msn.com>
Received: from mac.com ([10.150.68.58])
by ms183.mac.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server
6.2-8.01 (built Nov 27
2006)) with ESMTP id <0JUO0001H3BOZH90 ms183.mac.com> for
MyMacAddress mac.com;
Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:36 -0800 (PST)
Received: from servera01.blusmtp4.msn.com
(servera01.blusmtp.msn.com [65.55.238.140])
by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin058/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id
m0F44ZgM014752 for
<MyMacAddress mac.com>; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:35
-0800 (PST)
Received: from BAYPPBAT2B11 ([65.54.177.244]) by
servera01.blusmtp4.msn.com
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 14 Jan 2008
23:04:34 -0500
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:34 -0800
From: Microsoft Customer Support <support passport.msn.com>
Subject: Reset your Windows Live ID password
To: MyMacAddress mac.com
Message-id: <200801150404.m0F44ZgM014752 mac.com>
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain
Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAgAAAUAAAAFU
X-Brightmail: Scanned
Original-recipient: rfc822; MyMacAddress mac.com
Is this a phishing expedition?
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| Re: Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 17:06:31 |
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Well, my .02 says it's a Phish... because mac.com is owned
by apple, not $soft.
There's probably a hidden url in the email. Take a
look at the message source and search for "http"
BarryZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?
Did you ever have a Microsoft Messenger account, MSN messenger
account our in the ancient days, configure a Microsoft Passport
account? I think they've all been rolled into Windows Live ID.
Glenn Meadows Sheridan Square Entertainment -----Original
Message----- From: Warren Michelsen [mailto:Warren MDCCLXXVI.com] Sent:
Friday, January 18, 2008 8:00 AM To: netwinsite.com">surgemail-list netwinsite.com Subject:
[SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?
I recently
received: _ Hello mac.com">MyMacAddress mac.com:
You recently
asked to reset your Windows Live ID password by e-mail. Follow the
instructions below to reset your password, or to cancel your password reset
request.
TO RESET YOUR PASSWORD:
1. Select and copy the following
Internet address.
https://accountservices.msn.com/EmailPage.srf?emailid=ccdf9d92f71 [lots
more clipped]
2. Open a browser, paste the link in the address bar, then
press Enter or Return on your keyboard.
IF YOU DID NOT REQUEST TO
RESET YOUR PASSWORD:
1. Select and copy the following Internet
address.
https://accountservices.msn.com/EmailPage.srf?emailid=ccdf9d92f71 [lots
more clipped] _
I'm suspicious of this because:
1) I'm a Mac
user. To my knowledge, I've never signed up for a .NET or Windows Live
ID.
2) I didn't "recently ask to,reset" my password.
2) This was
sent to my address at Mac.com.
3) Unlike most actual password reset
mechanisms, this one insists that I have to do something even if I do not
want to reset my password.
I've now received three of these. The first
was on the 14th and headers look like this:
Return-path: <passport.msn.com">support passport.msn.com> Received:
from mac.com ([10.150.68.58]) by ms183.mac.com (Sun Java System
Messaging Server 6.2-8.01 (built Nov 27 2006)) with ESMTP id <ms183.mac.com">0JUO0001H3BOZH90 ms183.mac.com>
for MyMacAddress mac.com">MyMacAddress mac.com;
Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from
servera01.blusmtp4.msn.com (servera01.blusmtp.msn.com
[65.55.238.140]) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin058/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP
id m0F44ZgM014752 for <mac.com">MyMacAddress mac.com>; Mon, 14 Jan
2008 20:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from BAYPPBAT2B11 ([65.54.177.244]) by
servera01.blusmtp4.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon,
14 Jan 2008 23:04:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:34 -0800 From:
Microsoft Customer Support <passport.msn.com">support passport.msn.com> Subject:
Reset your Windows Live ID password To: mac.com">MyMacAddress mac.com Message-id:
<mac.com">200801150404.m0F44ZgM014752 mac.com> MIME-version:
1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding:
8bit X-Priority: 3 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAgAAAUAAAAFU X-Brightmail:
Scanned Original-recipient: rfc822; mac.com">MyMacAddress mac.com
Is
this a phishing expedition?
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| RE: Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 17:32:46 |
At 8:23 AM -0600 1/18/08, Glenn Meadows sent email regarding
Re:
[SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?:
>Did you ever have a Microsoft Messenger account, MSN
messenger account our
>in the ancient days, configure a Microsoft Passport
account?
Yes, I have a messenger account, but I certainly did not
request that
its password be reset.
One possibility, which I dismissed, is that this is a
routine
we-need-everyone-to-reset-their-passwords request due to
some system
overhaul. I figured it unlikely because an outfit as big as
MS ought
to know better than to say I had requested the reset
myself.
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| Re: Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 17:39:06 |
At 6:06 PM -0500 1/18/08, <webmaster 1usa.com> sent email regarding
Re: [SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?:
>Well, my .02 says it's a Phish... ...
>
>There's probably a hidden url in the email. Take a look
at the
>message source and search for "http"
No, there's no disguised URL. The email is plain text and
the URLs
therein seem to really point to msn.com.
But I've never had a .NET login and had never heard of
Windows Live
until I got this strange email.
What's most bothersome is that they insist I must do
something even
if I did NOT request that my password be reset. Were it not
for that,
I would not have been suspicious.
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| RE: Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 20:39:30 |
If you have a Xbox live account, Hotmail account or an msdn
membership
or the like it could cause this. I suppose a password reset
could be
triggered by someone trying to gain access to the account.
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Michelsen [mailto:Warren MDCCLXXVI.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:39 PM
To: surgemail-list netwinsite.com
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?
At 6:06 PM -0500 1/18/08, <webmaster 1usa.com> sent email regarding
Re: [SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?:
>Well, my .02 says it's a Phish... ...
>
>There's probably a hidden url in the email. Take a look
at the
>message source and search for "http"
No, there's no disguised URL. The email is plain text and
the URLs
therein seem to really point to msn.com.
But I've never had a .NET login and had never heard of
Windows Live
until I got this strange email.
What's most bothersome is that they insist I must do
something even
if I did NOT request that my password be reset. Were it not
for that,
I would not have been suspicious.
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| RE: Windows Live ID Phishing? |
  United States |
2008-01-18 23:09:06 |
At 6:39 PM -0800 1/18/08, Fred Wilson sent email regarding
Re:
[SurgeMail List] Windows Live ID Phishing?:
>If you have a Xbox live account, Hotmail account or an
msdn membership
>or the like it could cause this. I suppose a password
reset could be
>triggered by someone trying to gain access to the
account.
That's not uncommon, and why I tend to ignore such things if
I did
not request a password reset. In this case however, MSN
requires that
I do something even if I don't want my password reset.
Strangely, I
cannot log into my MSN messenger account (which uses an
email address
which is NOT the one to which I received this reset email).
It tells
me my email address or password is wrong.
In any case, this does not appear to be a phishing email. It
really
did come from MSN, as far as I can tell, and the URLs in it
go to
MSN.com.
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