envelope-from question

Log says:
Dropped 66.163.168.132 
<sentto-20270915-922-1202254028-someone=desertskyone.com<
img src="/img/at.gif" align="middle" border="0"
alt="">returns.groups.yahoo.com> 
<someonedesertskyone.com> 3635 
<p06240823c3cea0b1f67e[192.168.1.101]>
"[66.163.168.132] From and 
Envelope from must both be local domains add
(g_from_allow_ip 
66.163.168.132) 
(<sentto-20270915-922-1202254028-Susan=desertskyone.comreturns.groups.yahoo.com>) 
(someonedesertskyone.com)"
  5 16:28:04[402300]

someonedesertskyone.com is not getting her posting to yahoo
groups. 
What does the above log entry mean?

I had the same problem. Actuall the message does go through,
but can't 
be received by the sender. Now I am using a new build that
was emailed 
to me. I use Windows.
It didn't "fix" anything for a few days. But then,
magically, it fixed 
the problem.

Warren Michelsen wrote:
> Log says:
> Dropped 66.163.168.132 
>
<sentto-20270915-922-1202254028-someone=desertskyone.com<
img src="/img/at.gif" align="middle" border="0"
alt="">returns.groups.yahoo.com> 
> <someonedesertskyone.com> 3635 
> <p06240823c3cea0b1f67e[192.168.1.101]>
"[66.163.168.132] From and 
> Envelope from must both be local domains add
(g_from_allow_ip 
> 66.163.168.132) 
>
(<sentto-20270915-922-1202254028-Susan=desertskyone.comreturns.groups.yahoo.com>) 
> (someonedesertskyone.com)"
>  5 16:28:04[402300]
>
> someonedesertskyone.com is not getting her posting to yahoo
groups. 
> What does the above log entry mean?
>
>
>

At 7:15 PM -0500 2/5/08, Eric Vey sent email regarding Re:
[SurgeMail 
List] envelope-from question:
>I had the same problem. Actuall the message does go
through, but 
>can't be received by the sender.

Then where does it "go through" to?

>Now I am using a new build that was emailed to me. I use
Windows.
>It didn't "fix" anything for a few days. But
then, magically, it 
>fixed the problem.

I'm using OSX 3.8t-6 01/21/08 11:03:34 (Special pre-release
version) 
Maybe I should revert. This does seem like a recent, new
problem.




>
>Warren Michelsen wrote:
>>Log says:
>>Dropped 66.163.168.132 
>><sentto-20270915-922-1202254028-someone=desertsky
one.comreturns.groups.yahoo.com> 
>><someonedesertskyone.com> 3635 
>><p06240823c3cea0b1f67e[192.168.1.101]>
"[66.163.168.132] From and 
>>Envelope from must both be local domains add
(g_from_allow_ip 
>>66.163.168.132) 
>>(<sentto-20270915-922-1202254028-Susan=desertskyo
ne.comreturns.groups.yahoo.com>) 
>>(someonedesertskyone.com)"
>>  5 16:28:04[402300]
>>
>>someonedesertskyone.com is not getting her
posting to yahoo 
>>groups. What does the above log entry mean?

At 9:30 PM -0500 2/5/08, <webmaster1usa.com> sent email
regarding 
Re: [SurgeMail List] envelope-from question:
>"From and Envelope-from must both be local
domains"
>
>Why are you requiring yahoo emails to be in your local
domains in 
>order to receive emails from them?

*I* am not requiring this. It just started happening. I
don't 
understand this requirement or where it came from.


>Is this also happening to other domains?

It seems to be happening to just one user at one domain.

She reported that her posts to various Yahoo Groups lists
were not 
coming through. I'm investigating why. Did she create some
sort of 
rule that is causing this?

At 11:58 PM -0500 2/10/08, <webmaster1usa.com> sent email regarding 
Re: [SurgeMail List] envelope-from question:
>4 days later:  (it feels longer than that...)
>Warren:
>Did you go check the customer's filtering rules?
>I'd go into /mbox/mailbox/ and review all what's in
there.  Maybe 
>there's an incomplete filter in her filtering rules.

I've only looked at her rules via web admin. She has a lot
of reject 
and some Vanish rules based on subject and From, but nothing
there 
which would account for losing lots of Yahoo Groups email.
Would an 
"incomplete filter" be some sort of rogue,
deleting or rejecting 
email randomly?

>
>Yahoo Groups in general:  I've found that there should
be a customer 
>filter (on the customer's filtering page) for [keyword]
in the 
>subject line to ensure that all yayhoo group emails
aren't 
>challenged or rejected.

Actually, in response to her problem, I set up some global
filters to Accept:

envelope-from 	contains 	returns.groups.yahoo.com
To 	contains 	returns.groups.yahoo.com
>From 	contains 	returns.groups.yahoo.com

in an effort to ensure that Yahoo Groups mail comes
through.

You're suggesting Accept rules based on the [subject] of
each group 
email?  I'll suggest that. Thanks.




>
>BarryZ
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:WarrenMDCCLXXVI.com>Warren
Michelsen
>To: <mailto:surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
>Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] envelope-from question
>
>At 9:30 PM -0500 2/5/08, 
><<mailto:webmaster1usa.com>webmaster1usa.com> sent email regarding
>Re: [SurgeMail List] envelope-from question:
>>"From and Envelope-from must both be local
domains"
>>
>>Why are you requiring yahoo emails to be in your
local domains in
>>order to receive emails from them?
>
>*I* am not requiring this. It just started happening. I
don't
>understand this requirement or where it came from.
>
>
>>Is this also happening to other domains?
>
>It seems to be happening to just one user at one
domain.
>
>She reported that her posts to various Yahoo Groups
lists were not
>coming through. I'm investigating why. Did she create
some sort of
>rule that is causing this?