Re: Domainkeys

I guess the propogation was lacking.  (iow my patience)
OK the DNS records are recognized now.

What happens when we set up to check for incoming domains
keys and someone 
on our service sends an email from their home computer
directly to our 
server (not an exempted IP) using the reply address of our
domain.  (I hope 
I am making sense)




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case Hugo" <surgemail2007elkgrove.net>
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys


>I know it claims that, but I have it setup using
simpledns.
> It is a TXT record named _domainkey.elkgrove.net with
the text o=- 
> (letter o equals dash) Not sure why it does not show
up.
>
> I removed the \.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lyle Giese" <lylelcrcomputer.info>
> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>
>
>> You don't have a _domainkey.elkgrove.net txt
record.
>>
>> You have a \ in front of two quote marks in the 
>> default._domainkey.lcrcomputer.com txt record.
>>
>> Lyle
>>
>> Case Hugo wrote:
>>> I noticed that your records have a \  (after
"t=y")  I do not see that 
>>> in the surgemail instructions.  Is that what I
am missing?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The DomainKey records for lcrcomputer.com
are:
>>>>
>>>> _domainkey.lcrcomputer.com. 86400 IN    TXT
   "t=y\; o=~"
>>>> default._domainkey.lcrcomputer.com. 86400
IN TXT "t=y\; k=rsa\;
>>>>
p=MHwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADawAwaAJhAMcObs+NxtlKTaCEGX9p5CftiX
3zm+w5Ru6+wkS+0sbJ2Bm+oRk8Z2I6sjSrIXdJs/nHOib8g49eSg1fCUMQT5
03DCOhS9tAdO58v7ugb+FtlNUVkaWbBm4wpfeGhSPhBwIDAQAB"
>>>>
>>>> Lyle
>>>>
>>>> Case Hugo wrote:
>>>>> How can you test to see if it is
working?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Lyle Giese" 
>>>>> <lylelcrcomputer.info>
>>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List]
Domainkeys
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In the mail server webadmin, go to
Spam Control.  At the top, select 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> domain you want to get the keys
for.  Then scroll down to Alternate
>>>>>> Sender Verification and click on
Configure next to Create DomainKeys 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> signing outgoing messages. 
Regenerate only if necessary.  But this
>>>>>> displays what needs to be entered
into your Domain's DNS records. 
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> posts your domain's public key for
Yahoo to read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then after posting that info in
DNS, come back to this webadmin page 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> select your domain at the top
again.  Under the above line(Create
>>>>>> DomainKeys...) there is a check box
'Sign Outgoing Messages', this 
>>>>>> turns
>>>>>> on signing your outgoing messages.
>>>>>> The receiving mail server reads the
domain key in the message and 
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> some kind of magic compare to the
info in DNS and if the magic says 
>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>> they accept the message.  If the
magic says NO, your options in DNS
>>>>>> proclaim what the receiving mail
server should do.  But more than 
>>>>>> likely
>>>>>> they will reject a message or at
least add to the spammy score of the
>>>>>> message while doing their content
filtering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surgemail Support (Marijn) wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm passing this on to chris,
he should respond when he returns.
>>>>>>> Please, let us know if you or
someone else on the list has any 
>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>> info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marijn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Glenn
Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008
1:26 AM
>>>>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List]
Domainkeys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have significant
"delays" sending mail to Yahoo.  Lots of 
>>>>>>>> "Delivery
>>>>>>>> Deferred" messages,
and was hoping that implementing Domain Keys,
>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>> believe is one of Yahoo's
preferred authentication methods, would
>>>>>>>> eliminate
>>>>>>>> that slowdown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have several large mail
lists for fan clubs, where people have
>>>>>>>> opted in,
>>>>>>>> that all of the Yahoo email
sits in the outbound queue for hours,
>>>>>>>> delivery
>>>>>>>> 4-6 every 3-5 minutes.  I
think the issue is when Dlist sends out a
>>>>>>>> "blast",
>>>>>>>> and there are a flood of
emails going to Yahoo all of a sudden, 
>>>>>>>> THEY
>>>>>>>> tarpit
>>>>>>>> our IP address.  I've sent
them the usual form letter that you fill
>>>>>>>> out if
>>>>>>>> you're a corporate mail
server, explaining the situation.  They've
>>>>>>>> responded
>>>>>>>> that supposedly it's
"fixed", but in addition, I'd like to do
>>>>>>>> whatever they
>>>>>>>> suggest to alleviate that
congestion.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Glenn Meadows
>>>>>>>> Sheridan Square
Entertainment
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Surgemail Support
(Marijn)
>>>>>>>>
[mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008
2:33 AM
>>>>>>>> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail
List] Domainkeys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the trouble you are
having, the following page albeit brief
>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>> with the admin interface
page should be all you need to setup the
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> DNS records.
>>>>>>>> h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Probably someone else on
the list can be more help as I've never
>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>> configured domainkeys
myself on a live server. (Chris is the expert
>>>>>>>> on it
>>>>>>>> here and he is currently
still on holiday)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marijn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Glenn
Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008
8:19 AM
>>>>>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [SurgeMail List]
Domainkeys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm at a loss at the
moment, to find the "keys" to getting, or 
>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>> to get Domain Keys
setup.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone point me in
the right direction, either to online step 
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> step instructions?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> AND, how well does it
HELP in getting mail delivered to Yahoo?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Glenn Meadows
>>>>>>>>> Director Media
Services/IT Manager
>>>>>>>>> Sheridan Square
Entertainment
>>>>>>>>> 210 25th Avenue North
>>>>>>>>> Suite 1200
>>>>>>>>> Nashville, TN 37203
>>>>>>>>> 615-277-1882 (ph)
>>>>>>>>> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 

They would not have the domainkey signature in their email
yet as the
server is what puts that in.  Plus they should be sending
using an
authenicated SMTP session.

Lyle

Case Hugo wrote:
> I guess the propogation was lacking.  (iow my
patience)
> OK the DNS records are recognized now.
>
> What happens when we set up to check for incoming
domains keys and
> someone on our service sends an email from their home
computer
> directly to our server (not an exempted IP) using the
reply address of
> our domain.  (I hope I am making sense)
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Case
Hugo"
> <surgemail2007elkgrove.net>
> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>
>
>> I know it claims that, but I have it setup using
simpledns.
>> It is a TXT record named _domainkey.elkgrove.net
with the text o=-
>> (letter o equals dash) Not sure why it does not
show up.
>>
>> I removed the \.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle
Giese" <lylelcrcomputer.info>
>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>>
>>
>>> You don't have a _domainkey.elkgrove.net txt
record.
>>>
>>> You have a \ in front of two quote marks in
the
>>> default._domainkey.lcrcomputer.com txt record.
>>>
>>> Lyle
>>>
>>> Case Hugo wrote:
>>>> I noticed that your records have a \ 
(after "t=y")  I do not see
>>>> that in the surgemail instructions.  Is
that what I am missing?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The DomainKey records for
lcrcomputer.com are:
>>>>>
>>>>> _domainkey.lcrcomputer.com. 86400 IN   
TXT    "t=y\; o=~"
>>>>> default._domainkey.lcrcomputer.com.
86400 IN TXT "t=y\; k=rsa\;
>>>>>
p=MHwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADawAwaAJhAMcObs+NxtlKTaCEGX9p5CftiX
3zm+w5Ru6+wkS+0sbJ2Bm+oRk8Z2I6sjSrIXdJs/nHOib8g49eSg1fCUMQT5
03DCOhS9tAdO58v7ugb+FtlNUVkaWbBm4wpfeGhSPhBwIDAQAB"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lyle
>>>>>
>>>>> Case Hugo wrote:
>>>>>> How can you test to see if it is
working?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Lyle Giese"
>>>>>> <lylelcrcomputer.info>
>>>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List]
Domainkeys
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the mail server webadmin, go
to Spam Control.  At the top,
>>>>>>> select the
>>>>>>> domain you want to get the keys
for.  Then scroll down to Alternate
>>>>>>> Sender Verification and click
on Configure next to Create
>>>>>>> DomainKeys for
>>>>>>> signing outgoing messages. 
Regenerate only if necessary.  But this
>>>>>>> displays what needs to be
entered into your Domain's DNS
>>>>>>> records. This
>>>>>>> posts your domain's public key
for Yahoo to read.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then after posting that info in
DNS, come back to this webadmin
>>>>>>> page and
>>>>>>> select your domain at the top
again.  Under the above line(Create
>>>>>>> DomainKeys...) there is a check
box 'Sign Outgoing Messages',
>>>>>>> this turns
>>>>>>> on signing your outgoing
messages.
>>>>>>> The receiving mail server reads
the domain key in the message
>>>>>>> and does
>>>>>>> some kind of magic compare to
the info in DNS and if the magic
>>>>>>> says OK,
>>>>>>> they accept the message.  If
the magic says NO, your options in DNS
>>>>>>> proclaim what the receiving
mail server should do.  But more
>>>>>>> than likely
>>>>>>> they will reject a message or
at least add to the spammy score
>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>> message while doing their
content filtering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lyle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Surgemail Support (Marijn)
wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm passing this on to
chris, he should respond when he returns.
>>>>>>>> Please, let us know if you
or someone else on the list has any
>>>>>>>> further
>>>>>>>> info.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marijn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Glenn
Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10,
2008 1:26 AM
>>>>>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [SurgeMail
List] Domainkeys
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have significant
"delays" sending mail to Yahoo.  Lots of
>>>>>>>>> "Delivery
>>>>>>>>> Deferred"
messages, and was hoping that implementing Domain Keys,
>>>>>>>>> which I
>>>>>>>>> believe is one of
Yahoo's preferred authentication methods, would
>>>>>>>>> eliminate
>>>>>>>>> that slowdown.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have several large
mail lists for fan clubs, where people have
>>>>>>>>> opted in,
>>>>>>>>> that all of the Yahoo
email sits in the outbound queue for hours,
>>>>>>>>> delivery
>>>>>>>>> 4-6 every 3-5 minutes. 
I think the issue is when Dlist sends
>>>>>>>>> out a
>>>>>>>>> "blast",
>>>>>>>>> and there are a flood
of emails going to Yahoo all of a
>>>>>>>>> sudden, THEY
>>>>>>>>> tarpit
>>>>>>>>> our IP address.  I've
sent them the usual form letter that you
>>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>>>> out if
>>>>>>>>> you're a corporate
mail server, explaining the situation. 
>>>>>>>>> They've
>>>>>>>>> responded
>>>>>>>>> that supposedly it's
"fixed", but in addition, I'd like to do
>>>>>>>>> whatever they
>>>>>>>>> suggest to alleviate
that congestion.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Glenn Meadows
>>>>>>>>> Sheridan Square
Entertainment
>>>>>>>>> -----Original
Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Surgemail Support
(Marijn)
>>>>>>>>>
[mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09,
2008 2:33 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail
List] Domainkeys
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What is the trouble you
are having, the following page albeit
>>>>>>>>> brief
>>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>>> with the admin
interface page should be all you need to setup the
>>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>>> DNS records.
>>>>>>>>> h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Probably someone else
on the list can be more help as I've never
>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>> configured domainkeys
myself on a live server. (Chris is the
>>>>>>>>> expert
>>>>>>>>> on it
>>>>>>>>> here and he is
currently still on holiday)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marijn
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
--------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> From: "Glenn
Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09,
2008 8:19 AM
>>>>>>>>> To:
<surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [SurgeMail
List] Domainkeys
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm at a loss at
the moment, to find the "keys" to getting,
>>>>>>>>>> or trying
>>>>>>>>>> to get Domain Keys
setup.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone point me
in the right direction, either to online
>>>>>>>>>> step by
>>>>>>>>>> step instructions?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> AND, how well does
it HELP in getting mail delivered to Yahoo?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Glenn Meadows
>>>>>>>>>> Director Media
Services/IT Manager
>>>>>>>>>> Sheridan Square
Entertainment
>>>>>>>>>> 210 25th Avenue
North
>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1200
>>>>>>>>>> Nashville, TN
37203
>>>>>>>>>> 615-277-1882 (ph)
>>>>>>>>>> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I'm at a loss at the moment, to find the "keys" to
getting, or trying to get
Domain Keys setup.

Can anyone point me in the right direction, either to online
step by step
instructions?

AND, how well does it HELP in getting mail delivered to
Yahoo?

Thanks.

Glenn Meadows
Director Media Services/IT Manager
Sheridan Square Entertainment
210 25th Avenue North
Suite 1200
Nashville, TN 37203
615-277-1882 (ph)
615-277-1801 (fax) 

What is the trouble you are having, the following page
albeit brief along 
with the admin interface page should be all you need to
setup the necessary 
DNS records.
h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm

Probably someone else on the list can be more help as I've
never actually 
configured domainkeys myself on a live server. (Chris is the
expert on it 
here and he is currently still on holiday)

Marijn

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:19 AM
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Subject: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys

> I'm at a loss at the moment, to find the
"keys" to getting, or trying to 
> get
> Domain Keys setup.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction, either to
online step by step
> instructions?
>
> AND, how well does it HELP in getting mail delivered to
Yahoo?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Glenn Meadows
> Director Media Services/IT Manager
> Sheridan Square Entertainment
> 210 25th Avenue North
> Suite 1200
> Nashville, TN 37203
> 615-277-1882 (ph)
> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>
>
> 

I have significant "delays" sending mail to Yahoo.
 Lots of "Delivery
Deferred" messages, and was hoping that implementing
Domain Keys, which I
believe is one of Yahoo's preferred authentication methods,
would eliminate
that slowdown.

We have several large mail lists for fan clubs, where people
have opted in,
that all of the Yahoo email sits in the outbound queue for
hours, delivery
4-6 every 3-5 minutes.  I think the issue is when Dlist
sends out a "blast",
and there are a flood of emails going to Yahoo all of a
sudden, THEY tarpit
our IP address.  I've sent them the usual form letter that
you fill out if
you're a corporate mail server, explaining the situation. 
They've responded
that supposedly it's "fixed", but in addition, I'd
like to do whatever they
suggest to alleviate that congestion. 



Glenn Meadows
Sheridan Square Entertainment
-----Original Message-----
From: Surgemail Support (Marijn)
[mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:33 AM
To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys

What is the trouble you are having, the following page
albeit brief along
with the admin interface page should be all you need to
setup the necessary
DNS records.
h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm

Probably someone else on the list can be more help as I've
never actually
configured domainkeys myself on a live server. (Chris is the
expert on it
here and he is currently still on holiday)

Marijn

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:19 AM
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Subject: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys

> I'm at a loss at the moment, to find the
"keys" to getting, or trying 
> to get Domain Keys setup.
>
> Can anyone point me in the right direction, either to
online step by 
> step instructions?
>
> AND, how well does it HELP in getting mail delivered to
Yahoo?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Glenn Meadows
> Director Media Services/IT Manager
> Sheridan Square Entertainment
> 210 25th Avenue North
> Suite 1200
> Nashville, TN 37203
> 615-277-1882 (ph)
> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>
>
> 

I'm passing this on to chris, he should respond when he
returns. Please, let 
us know if you or someone else on the list has any further
info.

Marijn

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:26 AM
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys

> I have significant "delays" sending mail to
Yahoo.  Lots of "Delivery
> Deferred" messages, and was hoping that
implementing Domain Keys, which I
> believe is one of Yahoo's preferred authentication
methods, would 
> eliminate
> that slowdown.
>
> We have several large mail lists for fan clubs, where
people have opted 
> in,
> that all of the Yahoo email sits in the outbound queue
for hours, delivery
> 4-6 every 3-5 minutes.  I think the issue is when Dlist
sends out a 
> "blast",
> and there are a flood of emails going to Yahoo all of a
sudden, THEY 
> tarpit
> our IP address.  I've sent them the usual form letter
that you fill out if
> you're a corporate mail server, explaining the
situation.  They've 
> responded
> that supposedly it's "fixed", but in
addition, I'd like to do whatever 
> they
> suggest to alleviate that congestion.
>
>
>
> Glenn Meadows
> Sheridan Square Entertainment
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Surgemail Support (Marijn)
[mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:33 AM
> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>
> What is the trouble you are having, the following page
albeit brief along
> with the admin interface page should be all you need to
setup the 
> necessary
> DNS records.
> h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm
>
> Probably someone else on the list can be more help as
I've never actually
> configured domainkeys myself on a live server. (Chris
is the expert on it
> here and he is currently still on holiday)
>
> Marijn
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:19 AM
> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> Subject: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>
>> I'm at a loss at the moment, to find the
"keys" to getting, or trying
>> to get Domain Keys setup.
>>
>> Can anyone point me in the right direction, either
to online step by
>> step instructions?
>>
>> AND, how well does it HELP in getting mail
delivered to Yahoo?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Glenn Meadows
>> Director Media Services/IT Manager
>> Sheridan Square Entertainment
>> 210 25th Avenue North
>> Suite 1200
>> Nashville, TN 37203
>> 615-277-1882 (ph)
>> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

In the mail server webadmin, go to Spam Control.  At the
top, select the
domain you want to get the keys for.  Then scroll down to
Alternate
Sender Verification and click on Configure next to Create
DomainKeys for
signing outgoing messages.  Regenerate only if necessary. 
But this
displays what needs to be entered into your Domain's DNS
records.  This
posts your domain's public key for Yahoo to read.

Then after posting that info in DNS, come back to this
webadmin page and
select your domain at the top again.  Under the above
line(Create
DomainKeys...) there is a check box 'Sign Outgoing
Messages', this turns
on signing your outgoing messages. 

The receiving mail server reads the domain key in the
message and does
some kind of magic compare to the info in DNS and if the
magic says OK,
they accept the message.  If the magic says NO, your options
in DNS
proclaim what the receiving mail server should do.  But more
than likely
they will reject a message or at least add to the spammy
score of the
message while doing their content filtering.

Lyle

Surgemail Support (Marijn) wrote:
> I'm passing this on to chris, he should respond when he
returns.
> Please, let us know if you or someone else on the list
has any further
> info.
>
> Marijn
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:26 AM
> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>
>> I have significant "delays" sending mail
to Yahoo.  Lots of "Delivery
>> Deferred" messages, and was hoping that
implementing Domain Keys,
>> which I
>> believe is one of Yahoo's preferred authentication
methods, would
>> eliminate
>> that slowdown.
>>
>> We have several large mail lists for fan clubs,
where people have
>> opted in,
>> that all of the Yahoo email sits in the outbound
queue for hours,
>> delivery
>> 4-6 every 3-5 minutes.  I think the issue is when
Dlist sends out a
>> "blast",
>> and there are a flood of emails going to Yahoo all
of a sudden, THEY
>> tarpit
>> our IP address.  I've sent them the usual form
letter that you fill
>> out if
>> you're a corporate mail server, explaining the
situation.  They've
>> responded
>> that supposedly it's "fixed", but in
addition, I'd like to do
>> whatever they
>> suggest to alleviate that congestion.
>>
>>
>>
>> Glenn Meadows
>> Sheridan Square Entertainment
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Surgemail Support (Marijn)
>> [mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com]
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:33 AM
>> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>>
>> What is the trouble you are having, the following
page albeit brief
>> along
>> with the admin interface page should be all you
need to setup the
>> necessary
>> DNS records.
>> h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm
>>
>> Probably someone else on the list can be more help
as I've never
>> actually
>> configured domainkeys myself on a live server.
(Chris is the expert
>> on it
>> here and he is currently still on holiday)
>>
>> Marijn
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:19 AM
>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>> Subject: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>>
>>> I'm at a loss at the moment, to find the
"keys" to getting, or trying
>>> to get Domain Keys setup.
>>>
>>> Can anyone point me in the right direction,
either to online step by
>>> step instructions?
>>>
>>> AND, how well does it HELP in getting mail
delivered to Yahoo?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Glenn Meadows
>>> Director Media Services/IT Manager
>>> Sheridan Square Entertainment
>>> 210 25th Avenue North
>>> Suite 1200
>>> Nashville, TN 37203
>>> 615-277-1882 (ph)
>>> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

I noticed that your records have a   (after
"t=y")  I do not see that in 
the surgemail instructions.  Is that what I am missing?

>
> The DomainKey records for lcrcomputer.com are:
>
> _domainkey.lcrcomputer.com. 86400 IN    TXT   
"t=y; o=~"
> default._domainkey.lcrcomputer.com. 86400 IN TXT
"t=y; k=rsa;
>
p=MHwwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADawAwaAJhAMcObs+NxtlKTaCEGX9p5CftiX
3zm+w5Ru6+wkS+0sbJ2Bm+oRk8Z2I6sjSrIXdJs/nHOib8g49eSg1fCUMQT5
03DCOhS9tAdO58v7ugb+FtlNUVkaWbBm4wpfeGhSPhBwIDAQAB"
>
> Lyle
>
> Case Hugo wrote:
>> How can you test to see if it is working?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle
Giese" <lylelcrcomputer.info>
>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>>
>>
>>> In the mail server webadmin, go to Spam
Control.  At the top, select the
>>> domain you want to get the keys for.  Then
scroll down to Alternate
>>> Sender Verification and click on Configure next
to Create DomainKeys for
>>> signing outgoing messages.  Regenerate only if
necessary.  But this
>>> displays what needs to be entered into your
Domain's DNS records.  This
>>> posts your domain's public key for Yahoo to
read.
>>>
>>> Then after posting that info in DNS, come back
to this webadmin page and
>>> select your domain at the top again.  Under the
above line(Create
>>> DomainKeys...) there is a check box 'Sign
Outgoing Messages', this turns
>>> on signing your outgoing messages.
>>> The receiving mail server reads the domain key
in the message and does
>>> some kind of magic compare to the info in DNS
and if the magic says OK,
>>> they accept the message.  If the magic says NO,
your options in DNS
>>> proclaim what the receiving mail server should
do.  But more than likely
>>> they will reject a message or at least add to
the spammy score of the
>>> message while doing their content filtering.
>>>
>>> Lyle
>>>
>>> Surgemail Support (Marijn) wrote:
>>>> I'm passing this on to chris, he should
respond when he returns.
>>>> Please, let us know if you or someone else
on the list has any further
>>>> info.
>>>>
>>>> Marijn
>>>>
>>>>
--------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Glenn Meadows"
<gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 1:26 AM
>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>> Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>>>>
>>>>> I have significant "delays"
sending mail to Yahoo.  Lots of "Delivery
>>>>> Deferred" messages, and was hoping
that implementing Domain Keys,
>>>>> which I
>>>>> believe is one of Yahoo's preferred
authentication methods, would
>>>>> eliminate
>>>>> that slowdown.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have several large mail lists for
fan clubs, where people have
>>>>> opted in,
>>>>> that all of the Yahoo email sits in the
outbound queue for hours,
>>>>> delivery
>>>>> 4-6 every 3-5 minutes.  I think the
issue is when Dlist sends out a
>>>>> "blast",
>>>>> and there are a flood of emails going
to Yahoo all of a sudden, THEY
>>>>> tarpit
>>>>> our IP address.  I've sent them the
usual form letter that you fill
>>>>> out if
>>>>> you're a corporate mail server,
explaining the situation.  They've
>>>>> responded
>>>>> that supposedly it's "fixed",
but in addition, I'd like to do
>>>>> whatever they
>>>>> suggest to alleviate that congestion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn Meadows
>>>>> Sheridan Square Entertainment
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Surgemail Support (Marijn)
>>>>> [mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 2:33 AM
>>>>> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List]
Domainkeys
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the trouble you are having, the
following page albeit brief
>>>>> along
>>>>> with the admin interface page should be
all you need to setup the
>>>>> necessary
>>>>> DNS records.
>>>>> h
ttp://netwinsite.com/surgemail/help/domainkeys.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably someone else on the list can
be more help as I've never
>>>>> actually
>>>>> configured domainkeys myself on a live
server. (Chris is the expert
>>>>> on it
>>>>> here and he is currently still on
holiday)
>>>>>
>>>>> Marijn
>>>>>
>>>>>
--------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Glenn Meadows"
<gmeadowssheridansq.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:19 AM
>>>>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>>>>> Subject: [SurgeMail List] Domainkeys
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm at a loss at the moment, to
find the "keys" to getting, or trying
>>>>>> to get Domain Keys setup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone point me in the right
direction, either to online step by
>>>>>> step instructions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AND, how well does it HELP in
getting mail delivered to Yahoo?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glenn Meadows
>>>>>> Director Media Services/IT Manager
>>>>>> Sheridan Square Entertainment
>>>>>> 210 25th Avenue North
>>>>>> Suite 1200
>>>>>> Nashville, TN 37203
>>>>>> 615-277-1882 (ph)
>>>>>> 615-277-1801 (fax)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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