Re: WebMail Templates

>  I am slowly finding things out, but it would be very
useful to know what
> things like
> "do_full_login ... "  ,  " masterset
..." etc mean/do

The following is reasonably comprehensive in terms of ini
settings.
http://netw
insite.com/webmail/ini.htm#ini

>  They dont seem to have a comprehensive list of the
keywords used in
> WebMail.ini, as they do in Surgemail.ini - pity (or if
they do, I havnt
> found it!)

However, not everything is documented and even if it is it
is, I sometimes 
do not agree with the implementation / or find the
implementation more 
convoluted that I would like to see it.

Just ask any questions you have and I'll do some
investigation of the source 
to get you answers 

do_full_login  sets up the web_variables to display the full
list page 
directly after a login. In practise this means that you are
using a non 
frames template set I believe.

masterset refers to the way the language translation
implementation was done 
in the surge and smooth tempalte sets. There is no "non
masterset" version 
of these, so I suggest you leave this setting alone.


Marijn



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From: "Jim Heck" <jimmilnet.uk.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:45 AM
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] WebMail Templates

> Hi Kevin,
>
>  Many thanks. Yes, I follow what you have done. I'm
trying to understand
> how the templates thing works, and am working on it on
a trial and error
> basis. As is sometimes the way the docuentation on the
web isnt very
> helpful, with information dotted all around the place,
and sometime out of
> date.
>
>  I am slowly finding things out, but it would be very
useful to know what
> things like
> "do_full_login ... "  ,  " masterset
..." etc mean/do
>
>  They dont seem to have a comprehensive list of the
keywords used in
> WebMail.ini, as they do in Surgemail.ini - pity (or if
they do, I havnt
> found it!)
>
> thanks and rgds
> Jim
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gagelcnc.bc.ca [mailto:gagelcnc.bc.ca]
>> Sent: 09 May 2008 16:07
>> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
>> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] WebMail Templates
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> I copied them to a new folder then I copied
webmail.exe and webmail.ini 
>> to
>> a new name - say test.exe and test.ini.
>>
>> Then I simply altered the paths in test.ini to
reflect the path I copied
>> the templates to.
>>
>> In the browser I simply used the test.exe instead
of webmail.exe. That
>> gives me a fully working test site with live
email.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Heck" <jimmilnet.uk.net>
>> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
>> Subject: [SurgeMail List] WebMail Templates
>> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:03:44 +0100
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >  I'm having huge difficulties in understanding
the set up of WebMail 
>> > ver
>> >3.1 templates on windows. My initial
instalation of webmail.ini had a
>> >section:
>> >
>>
>--------------------------------------------------------
---------
>> ---------
>> >-- -----------------
>> >templates e:surgemailwebmailpanel
>> >do_full_login smooth,surge
>> >tpl_set 1 e:surgemailwebmailpanel
/nwimg/mail/panel Panel Set (Panel)
>> ># Add one line per template set defined (see
>> >http://
netwinsite.com/surgemail/templates.htm)
>> >#tpl_set 2 e:surgemailwebmailpanel
/nwimg/mail/panel Template2
>> >(Template2)
>> >tpl_set surge
e:surgemailwebmailmastersetsurge
>> /nwimg/mail/surge Surge
>> >Set (Surge)
>> >masterset surge e:surgemailwebmail
/nwimg/mail/surge
>> >tpl_set smooth
e:surgemailwebmailmastersetsmooth /nwimg/mail/smooth
>> >Smooth Set (Smooth)
>> >masterset smooth e:surgemailwebmail
/nwimg/mail/smooth
>>
>--------------------------------------------------------
---------
>> ---------
>> >-- ------------------
>> >
>> >Here are some questions:
>> >
>> >1. The online manual on netwinsite.com says add
a line
>> "default_tpl surge"
>> >to make surge the default template. It makes no
difference, unless the
>> >line "templates e:surgemailwebmailpanel
is removed, in which
>> case I get
>> >a "failed to locate [list.tpl}"
error. Any ideas what I am doing wrong.
>> >
>> >2. Anyone know the significance of the lines
above starting with
>> >"masterset?" Cant see it in the
documentation.
>> >
>> >Any advice, pointers to useful manual pages
would be much appreciated.
>> >
>> >All I am tring to do is to copy the surge
templates to a new folder, and
>> >use them, so I can mofify them, while keeping
the originals as a fall
>> >back.
>> >
>> >thanks and regards
>> >Jim Heck
>> >
>> >
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Kevin W. Gagel
>> Postmaster for
>> College of New Caledonia
>> (250) 562-2131 loc. 5448
>> postmastercnc.bc.ca
>> http://www.cnc.bc.ca
>> Anti-Spam info at:
>> http://gateway.cnc.bc.ca

>>
>>
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>
>
> 

Hi Marjin

  Thanks for this, especially the link to the new ini
setting. I was using
those at http://netw
insite.com/webmail/webmail.htm, and hence unaware of
these new ones.

  Thanks also for the comment concerning the documentation,
I thought that
might be the case!

  I wonder if you got my email addressed to supportnetwinsite. I reproduce
it below, in case you can help.

<quote>

  I am evaluating version 3.8k4-4 of surge mail (version
3.1s on WebMail)
running in a w2k3 windows server. We are considering an
upgrade from our old
version (2.2h-4)

  I am trying to determine how I can access the data held in
the surgemail
databse (I am using the odbc module with an access databse).
I have studied
the surgemail and the webmail tpl files and dicumentation
carefully, bit
just can seem to find out how to do it.

  The only variable I seem to be able to ready, is the
quota.

 I have a field in the database called ExpireDate, which I
would like to
desplay inthe left hand nav panel (say under the quota). (I
am using the
surge tpl set)

  Any ideas would be very gratefully received!

  Incidentally, whilst loking around, I noticed some new
surgemail.ini
setting starting with g_bank_. I wonder if these have been
fully
implimented/documented? They would be extremely attractive
to us if they
are!

</quote>

rgds
Jim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Surgemail Support (Marijn)
> [mailto:surgemail-supportnetwinsite.com]
> Sent: 12 May 2008 10:03
> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] WebMail Templates
>
>
>
> >  I am slowly finding things out, but it would be
very useful to
> know what
> > things like
> > "do_full_login ... "  ,  "
masterset ..." etc mean/do
>
> The following is reasonably comprehensive in terms of
ini settings.
> http://netw
insite.com/webmail/ini.htm#ini
>
> >  They dont seem to have a comprehensive list of
the keywords used in
> > WebMail.ini, as they do in Surgemail.ini - pity
(or if they do, I havnt
> > found it!)
>
> However, not everything is documented and even if it is
it is, I
> sometimes
> do not agree with the implementation / or find the
implementation more
> convoluted that I would like to see it.
>
> Just ask any questions you have and I'll do some
investigation of
> the source
> to get you answers 
>
> do_full_login  sets up the web_variables to display the
full list page
> directly after a login. In practise this means that you
are using a non
> frames template set I believe.
>
> masterset refers to the way the language translation
> implementation was done
> in the surge and smooth tempalte sets. There is no
"non
> masterset" version
> of these, so I suggest you leave this setting alone.
>
>
> Marijn
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jim Heck" <jimmilnet.uk.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:45 AM
> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> Subject: RE: [SurgeMail List] WebMail Templates
>
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> >  Many thanks. Yes, I follow what you have done.
I'm trying to understand
> > how the templates thing works, and am working on
it on a trial and error
> > basis. As is sometimes the way the docuentation on
the web isnt very
> > helpful, with information dotted all around the
place, and
> sometime out of
> > date.
> >
> >  I am slowly finding things out, but it would be
very useful to
> know what
> > things like
> > "do_full_login ... "  ,  "
masterset ..." etc mean/do
> >
> >  They dont seem to have a comprehensive list of
the keywords used in
> > WebMail.ini, as they do in Surgemail.ini - pity
(or if they do, I havnt
> > found it!)
> >
> > thanks and rgds
> > Jim
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gagelcnc.bc.ca [mailto:gagelcnc.bc.ca]
> >> Sent: 09 May 2008 16:07
> >> To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com
> >> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] WebMail
Templates
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> I copied them to a new folder then I copied
webmail.exe and
> webmail.ini
> >> to
> >> a new name - say test.exe and test.ini.
> >>
> >> Then I simply altered the paths in test.ini to
reflect the
> path I copied
> >> the templates to.
> >>
> >> In the browser I simply used the test.exe
instead of webmail.exe. That
> >> gives me a fully working test site with live
email.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Jim Heck" <jimmilnet.uk.net>
> >> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> >> Subject: [SurgeMail List] WebMail Templates
> >> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:03:44 +0100
> >>
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >  I'm having huge difficulties in
understanding the set up of WebMail
> >> > ver
> >> >3.1 templates on windows. My initial
instalation of webmail.ini had a
> >> >section:
> >> >
> >>
>--------------------------------------------------------
---------
> >> ---------
> >> >-- -----------------
> >> >templates e:surgemailwebmailpanel
> >> >do_full_login smooth,surge
> >> >tpl_set 1 e:surgemailwebmailpanel
/nwimg/mail/panel Panel
> Set (Panel)
> >> ># Add one line per template set defined
(see
> >> >http://
netwinsite.com/surgemail/templates.htm)
> >> >#tpl_set 2 e:surgemailwebmailpanel
/nwimg/mail/panel Template2
> >> >(Template2)
> >> >tpl_set surge
e:surgemailwebmailmastersetsurge
> >> /nwimg/mail/surge Surge
> >> >Set (Surge)
> >> >masterset surge e:surgemailwebmail
/nwimg/mail/surge
> >> >tpl_set smooth
e:surgemailwebmailmastersetsmooth
> /nwimg/mail/smooth
> >> >Smooth Set (Smooth)
> >> >masterset smooth e:surgemailwebmail
/nwimg/mail/smooth
> >>
>--------------------------------------------------------
---------
> >> ---------
> >> >-- ------------------
> >> >
> >> >Here are some questions:
> >> >
> >> >1. The online manual on netwinsite.com
says add a line
> >> "default_tpl surge"
> >> >to make surge the default template. It
makes no difference, unless the
> >> >line "templates
e:surgemailwebmailpanel is removed, in which
> >> case I get
> >> >a "failed to locate [list.tpl}"
error. Any ideas what I am
> doing wrong.
> >> >
> >> >2. Anyone know the significance of the
lines above starting with
> >> >"masterset?" Cant see it in the
documentation.
> >> >
> >> >Any advice, pointers to useful manual
pages would be much appreciated.
> >> >
> >> >All I am tring to do is to copy the surge
templates to a new
> folder, and
> >> >use them, so I can mofify them, while
keeping the originals as a fall
> >> >back.
> >> >
> >> >thanks and regards
> >> >Jim Heck
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------
> >> Kevin W. Gagel
> >> Postmaster for
> >> College of New Caledonia
> >> (250) 562-2131 loc. 5448
> >> postmastercnc.bc.ca
> >> http://www.cnc.bc.ca
> >> Anti-Spam info at:
> >> http://gateway.cnc.bc.ca

> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> The College of New Caledonia, Visit us at http://www.cnc.bc.ca
> >> Virus scanning is done on all incoming and
outgoing email.
> >> Anti-spam information for CNC can be found at
http://gateway.cnc.bc.ca

> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>