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Move Domain & Users
country flaguser name
United States		 2008-05-16 09:48:11 

  


  

    

Hi:


I have some domains and users on a Windows Surge 
Mail Machine I  would like to move to a Linux Surge mail Machine.  Is 
there a method of doing this without have to reenter the names and 
users?


Thanks!



Pete

  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-16 10:13:01
  


  

    

  


  

    





Set-it up as a mirror slave. Once they move change it to master.




 









From: PJ Mignone
[mailto:smlista1mail.net] 

Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:48 AM

To: surgemail-listnetwinsite.com

Subject: [SurgeMail List] Move Domain & Users










 







Hi:










I
have some domains and users on a Windows Surge Mail Machine I  would like
to move to a Linux Surge mail Machine.  Is there a method of doing this
without have to reenter the names and users?










Thanks!









Pete










  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-16 10:18:56
  


  

    
The easiest way is to set the new machine up as a mirror and
allow the 
old machine to transfer all data.  After the data and users
are received 
and verified make the new machine the master.  I have done
this twice 
now as our system has grown and it works with no problems. 
Just follow 
the instructions on setting up a mirror.

Lee

PJ Mignone wrote:
> Hi:
> I have some domains and users on a Windows Surge Mail
Machine I  would 
> like to move to a Linux Surge mail Machine.  Is there a
method of 
> doing this without have to reenter the names and
users?
> Thanks!
> Pete





  


  

    
  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-16 12:25:46
  


  

    
Yes and then you can keep the older machine as the backup -
slave.  Then in 
3 years or so you rotate a newer server in place.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee McMullen" <leemhursttech.com>
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Move Domain & Users


> The easiest way is to set the new machine up as a
mirror and allow the old 
> machine to transfer all data.  After the data and users
are received and 
> verified make the new machine the master.  I have done
this twice now as 
> our system has grown and it works with no problems. 
Just follow the 
> instructions on setting up a mirror.
>
> Lee
>
> PJ Mignone wrote:
>> Hi:
>> I have some domains and users on a Windows Surge
Mail Machine I  would 
>> like to move to a Linux Surge mail Machine.  Is
there a method of doing 
>> this without have to reenter the names and users?
>> Thanks!
>> Pete
>
> 





  


  

    
  

  
  
   
     
    

  

     New Domain Key Question
  


  

     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-16 13:06:33
  


  

    
Now that I finally got it working.  Do I take the t=y out of
(both) my dns 
records?  Surgemail says the (testmode)  t=y is
recommended.

Also, do all the domains use the same key?  Are the keys
automatically added 
to all domains sending through this server?

Thank you in advance





  


  

    
  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-17 16:07:30
  


  

    
Thanks All for the info.  I will try it next week.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Case Hugo" <surgemail2007elkgrove.net>
To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Move Domain & Users


> Yes and then you can keep the older machine as the
backup - slave.  Then 
> in 3 years or so you rotate a newer server in place.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Lee McMullen" <leemhursttech.com>
> To: <surgemail-listnetwinsite.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] Move Domain & Users
>
>
>> The easiest way is to set the new machine up as a
mirror and allow the 
>> old machine to transfer all data.  After the data
and users are received 
>> and verified make the new machine the master.  I
have done this twice now 
>> as our system has grown and it works with no
problems.  Just follow the 
>> instructions on setting up a mirror.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> PJ Mignone wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> I have some domains and users on a Windows
Surge Mail Machine I  would 
>>> like to move to a Linux Surge mail Machine.  Is
there a method of doing 
>>> this without have to reenter the names and
users?
>>> Thanks!
>>> Pete
>>
>>
>
>
> 






  


  

    
  

  
  
   
     
    

  

     Mirror & Domain Key Question
  


  

     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-17 16:31:23
  


  

    
I checked my mirror and did not see that the domainkey
settings were 
mirrorred.  How do I mirror those?

Thank you

C 





  


  

    
  

  
  
   
     
    

  

     zen.spamhaus.org
  


  

     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-17 20:59:22
  


  

    

  


  

    

To all the good tekkies here:


zen.spamhaus.org has been very valuable as an RBL, 
however they are now going into a phase where if the IP address of your DNSs 
make too many queries, they (or an agent) will send you a letter asking for 
$800+, $1500+, $3000+&nbsp;per year... based on the number of email 
accounts.


The letter also contains a threat to disallow any 
further communication with spamhaus.org


I deem the letter to be serious.


 


While a few thousand bucks per year is a good 
investment, I'd rather put that money into my Vette.&nbsp; Surely you guys have 
a better use also.


My fear is that it seems like Spamhaus.org, Google 
and others are eventually going to control a lot of the internet.


 


One thing we can do is to ask Netwin to setup a DNS 
for us, bite the bullet, and then rebill a share to us Surgemail 
admins.


Another thing we can do is to grep the daily logs 
and add those to our own RBLs. ; The RBL would need to be first in 
line.



Our own RBLs then can keep an IP listed for 30, 60, 
90 days vs the typical 'hours' cacheing.


 


My question is:  Can we insert a line of code 
into the Surgemail logging section that If an IP is found in <named RBLs> 
then add a formatted line into a database or txt file. ; I'd say that a db 
would be more pracical.


 


Netwin:&nbsp; Please consider having a Level1 RBL 
and an Level2 RBL.  If found in Level1, then don't check Level2, saving 
hits with outside RBLs.


And if an IP is found in Level2 > 
zen.spamhaus.org Then add to <database of Level1 RBL>



 


What are your thoughts on this guys?


BarryZ


 


 

  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-17 21:22:47
  


  

    

  


  

    
1usa.com">webmaster1usa.com wrote:

BARRYZ" type="cite">
  
  
  
  
To all the good tekkies here:

  
zen.spamhaus.org has been very
valuable as an RBL, however they are now going into a phase where if
the IP address of your DNSs make too many queries, they (or an agent)
will send you a letter asking for $800+, $1500+, $3000+&nbsp;per year...
based on the number of email accounts.

  
The letter also contains a threat to
disallow any further communication with spamhaus.org

  
I deem the letter to be serious.

  
 



This is nothing new and has been their public policy for a long time. ;
They used to just block your queries without warning.&nbsp; At least they
are sending a letter now.




BARRYZ" type="cite">
  
While a few thousand bucks per year
is a good investment, I'd rather put that money into my Vette.&nbsp; Surely
you guys have a better use also.

  
My fear is that it seems like
Spamhaus.org, Google and others are eventually going to control a lot
of the internet.

  
 

  
One thing we can do is to ask Netwin
to setup a DNS for us, bite the bullet, and then rebill a share to us
Surgemail admins.


  
Another thing we can do is to grep
the daily logs and add those to our own RBLs. ; The RBL would need to be
first in line.

  
Our own RBLs then can keep an IP
listed for 30, 60, 90 days vs the typical 'hours' cacheing.

  
 

  
My question is:  Can we insert a
line of code into the Surgemail logging section that If an IP is found
in <named RBLs> then add a formatted line into a database or txt
file.  I'd say that a db would be more pracical.

  
 

  
Netwin:&nbsp; Please consider having a
Level1 RBL and an Level2 RBL.  If found in Level1, then don't check
Level2, saving hits with outside RBLs.

  
And if an IP is found in Level2 >
zen.spamhaus.org Then add to <database of Level1 RBL>


  
 

  
What are your thoughts on this guys?

  
BarryZ

  
 



Are you denying, accepting or stamping based on an rbl hit?



If you are denying on an rbl hit, then surge should stop checking the
other rbls you have configured.  Therefore if you check Zen last, then
your other RBL's will catch some before getting to Zen.



We don't use Zen here only PBL and XBL and then only after NJABL
decided to give Spamhaus it's dynamic ranges.



I have not read the Spamhaus Service Agreement to determine if it's
acceptable for NetWin to 'resell' the Spamhaus lists.



Lyle







  

  
  
   
     
    

  

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     country flaguser name
United States		
     2008-05-18 00:03:48
  


  

    

  


  

    

Netwin wouldn't need permission to resell.... they're not 
selling.


The point here is that I'm looking for a mechanism to 
store IPs for3 or 6 months at a time, not days.


 


BarryZ


 


 


----- Original Message ----- 



Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:22 PM


Subject: Re: [SurgeMail List] zen.spamhaus.org



1usa.com">webmaster1usa.com wrote: 

BARRYZ type="cite">
  
  

  
To all the good tekkies here:

  
zen.spamhaus.org has been very valuable as an 
  RBL, however they are now going into a phase where if the IP address of your 
  DNSs make too many queries, they (or an agent) will send you a letter asking 
  for $800+, $1500+, $3000+&nbsp;per year... based on the number of email 
  accounts.

  
The letter also contains a threat to disallow any 
  further communication with spamhaus.org

  
I deem the letter to be serious.

  
 
This is nothing new and has been their public 
policy for a long time. ; They used to just block your queries without 
warning.  At least they are sending a letter now.



BARRYZ type="cite">
  
While a few thousand bucks per year is a good 
  investment, I'd rather put that money into my Vette.&nbsp; Surely you guys 
  have a better use also.

  
My fear is that it seems like Spamhaus.org, 
  Google and others are eventually going to control a lot of the 
  internet.

  
 

  
One thing we can do is to ask Netwin to setup a 
  DNS for us, bite the bullet, and then rebill a share to us Surgemail 
  admins.


  
Another thing we can do is to grep the daily logs 
  and add those to our own RBLs. ; The RBL would need to be first in 
  line.

  
Our own RBLs then can keep an IP listed for 30, 
  60, 90 days vs the typical 'hours' cacheing.

  
 

  
My question is:  Can we insert a line of 
  code into the Surgemail logging section that If an IP is found in <named 
  RBLs> then add a formatted line into a database or txt file. ; I'd say 
  that a db would be more pracical.

  
 

  
Netwin:&nbsp; Please consider having a Level1 RBL 
  and an Level2 RBL.  If found in Level1, then don't check Level2, saving 
  hits with outside RBLs.

  
And if an IP is found in Level2 > 
  zen.spamhaus.org Then add to <database of Level1 RBL>


  
 

  
What are your thoughts on this guys?

  
BarryZ

  
 
Are you denying, accepting or stamping based on an 
rbl hit?

If you are denying on an rbl hit, then surge should stop 
checking the other rbls you have configured.  Therefore if you check Zen 
last, then your other RBL's will catch some before getting to Zen.

We 
don't use Zen here only PBL and XBL and then only after NJABL decided to give 
Spamhaus it's dynamic ranges.

I have not read the Spamhaus Service 
Agreement to determine if it's acceptable for NetWin to 'resell' the Spamhaus 
lists.

Lyle



  

  
  
   
     
    






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