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Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 04:53:12
On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:

> The U.S. is poorly prepared for a major disruption of
the Internet,
> according to a study that an influential group of chief
executives  
> will
> publish today.
>
> The Business Roundtable, composed of the CEOs of 160
large U.S.  
> companies,
> said neither the government nor the private sector has
a  
> coordinated plan
> to respond to an attack, natural disaster or other
disruption of the
> Internet. While individual government agencies and
companies have  
> their
> own emergency plans in place, little coordination
exists between the
> groups, according to the study.
>
> "It's a matter of more clearly defining who has
responsibility," said
> Edward Rust Jr., CEO of State Farm Mutual Automobile
Insurance Co.,  
> who
> leads the Roundtable's Internet-security effort.

Isn't the point of the Internet that no one is in charge?

I shudder to think what would happen under large scale
attack if one  
of the CEOs in that room had "responsibility"
for the correct  
functioning of the "Internet".

This definitely falls into the "Just Doesn't Get
It" category.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick
Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 14:04:18

At one of my old jobs, my boss honestly believed that we had
a 'switch' 
that turned the entire internet off or on.  When she was
having problems 
accessing her shopping sites, she'd storm in the office and
say something 
like 'did you guys turn the the internet off again?' 
<sigh>

Then again, this is the same person that tried to tell me
that 768 OC-192s 
are carried on a single DS1..


- Peter

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

>
> On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>
> I shudder to think what would happen under large scale
attack if one of the 
> CEOs in that room had "responsibility" for
the correct functioning of the 
> "Internet".
>
> This definitely falls into the "Just Doesn't Get
It" category.
>
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick
Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 15:33:43
At 10:04 AM 6/23/2006, you wrote:
>Then again, this is the same person that tried to tell
me that 768 
>OC-192s are carried on a single DS1.

Now THAT is impressive compression! I don't know what your
former 
company did, but they should focus on selling that
compression 
technology. ;) The buffers must be enormous!

-Robert



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Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 16:09:36
RB> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:33:43 -0400
RB> From: Robert Boyle

RB> Now THAT is impressive compression! I don't know
what your former company
RB> did, but they should focus on selling that
compression technology. ;)

Irrational numbers can be described in finite space, yet
extend
indefinitely with no discernable pattern.  Perhaps said
company has
found a way to map arbitrary infinite-length data streams to
short,
simple representations a la "digits 'x' through
'y' of pi". 

(Note smiley.  This is tongue-in-cheek commentary on
entropy.)


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Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 16:04:57
On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:33:43 EDT, Robert Boyle said:

> Now THAT is impressive compression! I don't know what
your former 
> company did, but they should focus on selling that
compression 
> technology. ;) The buffers must be enormous!

Infinite compression is easy, if you use a sufficiently
lossy compression
algorithm.  Ask anybody who's talked to a journalist for an
hour, and ends
up as a one-sentence misquote.....
Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 18:23:44
Now we are all allowed the occasional fun at the management lacking a clue - but come on.

The users have an expectation that their "access to the Internet" works like a utility. When you say the "power is shut off" you don't expect to expand on whether the power grid in your state had a cascading failure but people on the other coast still have power and when your "water supply is shut off" does not mean that all the people in the world can't get a drop.

It just means that her "Internet is off" and as far as she is concerned the whole Internet/Power/Water supply might as well be "off"

p.s

768 OC-192s worth of Internet traffic can indeed be  carried on a single DS1 if the "Internet is off "



----- Original Message ----
From: Peter Ferrigan <peter.ferriganpetenet.com>
To: nanogmerit.edu
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 7:04:18 AM
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?



At one of my old jobs, my boss honestly believed that we had a 'switch'
that turned the entire internet off or on. &nbsp;When she was having problems
accessing her shopping sites, she'd storm in the office and say something
like 'did you guys turn the the internet off again?'&nbsp; &lt;sigh>

Then again, this is the same person that tried to tell me that 768 OC-192s
are carried on a single DS1..


- Peter

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

&gt;
> On Jun 23, 2006, at 12:45 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
>;
>
> I shudder to think what would happen under large scale attack if one of the
> CEOs in that room had "responsibility" for the correct functioning of the
> "Internet".
>
> This definitely falls into the "Just Doesn't Get It" category.
>
> --
> TTFN,
> patrick

Who wants to be in charge of the Internet today?
user name
2006-06-23 18:39:06
on Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 11:23:44AM -0700,
ennova2005-nanogyahoo.com wrote:
> The users have an expectation that their "access
to the Internet"
> works like a utility. When you say the "power is
shut off" you don't
> expect to expand on whether the power grid in your
state had a
> cascading failure but people on the other coast still
have power and
> when your "water supply is shut off" does
not mean that all the people
> in the world can't get a drop.
> 
> It just means that her "Internet is off"
and as far as she is
> concerned the whole Internet/Power/Water supply might
as well be "off"

Yep.

I eventually just trained myself into hearing "my
Internet access" when
I heard "the Internet" from someone who doesn't
know what the Internet
is.

e.g.,

 s/Is the Internet down?/Is my Internet access down?/

YMMV,
Steve

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