OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling

Hi,

I am really fed up of calls from UltraDNS - we seem to get
them every
few days.  We don't need their product.  

We've tried saying no, and additionally we've tried putting
people on
hold indefinitely, trying to be enough of a nuisance to drop
off their
sales call list (works with UK telcos - try it).

I just had a guy on hold for 18 minutes before taking him
off hold to
say that we didn't want their product, and could he please
stop calling.

He told me he would still calling until he got through to
the right
person.  I am the right person.

In the interest of Anglo-American relationships - any
Neustar people on
list willing to help ?

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Jon Lyons wrote:
> Get the guys direct number and start calling him all
day. Direct
> marketers/debt collectors really hate it when you call
them at work and
> bug them.. 
> 

Or give them a premium rate number that they can call that
goes to permanent
holding pattern...

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here i am replying to an offtopic post.  what's the world
coming to?

andynosignal.org (Andy Davidson) writes:

> I am really fed up of calls from UltraDNS - we seem to
get them every
> few days.  We don't need their product.  

every month or two somebody will ask me "does BIND
really drop 20% of all
queries it receives?"  and i say, "um, no, why do
you ask?" and the answer
is always "that's what the ultradns salesman told
me."  i can't argue with
their success, but i guess i am ready to quibble over their
manners.
-- 
Paul Vixie

Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> every month or two somebody will ask me "does BIND
really drop 20% of all
> queries it receives?"  and i say, "um, no,
why do you ask?" and the answer
> is always "that's what the ultradns salesman told
me."  i can't argue with
> their success, but i guess i am ready to quibble over
their manners.
>   

Hi Paul, just curious, someone over at UltraDNS called and
told me my 
own bind server is dropping
20% of queries. Can you please explain to me how did they
log into my 
systems?


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanogmerit.edu [mailto:owner-nanogmerit.edu] On 
> Behalf Of J. Oquendo
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:06 PM
> To: Paul Vixie
> Cc: nanogmerit.edu
> Subject: Re: OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people
calling
> 
> Paul Vixie wrote:
> >
> > every month or two somebody will ask me "does
BIND really 
> drop 20% of all
> > queries it receives?"  and i say, "um,
no, why do you ask?" 
> and the answer
> > is always "that's what the ultradns salesman
told me."  i 
> can't argue with
> > their success, but i guess i am ready to quibble
over their manners.
> >   
> 
> Hi Paul, just curious, someone over at UltraDNS called
and told me my 
> own bind server is dropping
> 20% of queries. Can you please explain to me how did
they log into my 
> systems?

Sendmail.

Jamie

Tell them that you have absolutely no interest in doing
business with their
company now and in the future and that any future calls will
be considered
harassment.  If that doesn't work, explain to them that they
have an
inferior product to that of their competitors and that you
are more likely
to utilize their competitors products instead of theirs and
if they try to
tell you the benefits of their product stop them short and
say it doesn't
matter if their competitor's product isn't as good, you will
use them simply
because they don't call you.  Or call them a doody face and
be done with it.

If their number stays the same each call, call block them. 
That seems to
work for me on most telemarketing issues.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanogmerit.edu [mailto:owner-nanogmerit.edu] On Behalf Of Andy
Davidson
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:42 AM
To: nanogmerit.edu
Subject: OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling



Hi,

I am really fed up of calls from UltraDNS - we seem to get
them every
few days.  We don't need their product.  

We've tried saying no, and additionally we've tried putting
people on
hold indefinitely, trying to be enough of a nuisance to drop
off their
sales call list (works with UK telcos - try it).

I just had a guy on hold for 18 minutes before taking him
off hold to
say that we didn't want their product, and could he please
stop calling.

He told me he would still calling until he got through to
the right
person.  I am the right person.

In the interest of Anglo-American relationships - any
Neustar people on
list willing to help ?

> Hi Paul, just curious, someone over at UltraDNS called
and told me my own
> bind server is dropping 20% of queries. Can you please
explain to me how did
> they log into my systems?

Blacklisting is NO fun!  Try searing for
Asterisk+Telemarketer+Torture

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Tele
marketer+Torture

Ryan

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Gregory Taylor wrote:

> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:45:23 -0800
> From: Gregory Taylor <gregxwb.com>
> To: 'Andy Davidson' <andynosignal.org>, nanogmerit.edu
> Subject: RE: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling
> 
>
> Tell them that you have absolutely no interest in doing
business with their
> company now and in the future and that any future calls
will be considered
> harassment.  If that doesn't work, explain to them that
they have an
> inferior product to that of their competitors and that
you are more likely
> to utilize their competitors products instead of theirs
and if they try to
> tell you the benefits of their product stop them short
and say it doesn't
> matter if their competitor's product isn't as good, you
will use them simply
> because they don't call you.  Or call them a doody face
and be done with it.
>
> If their number stays the same each call, call block
them.  That seems to
> work for me on most telemarketing issues.
>
> Greg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanogmerit.edu [mailto:owner-nanogmerit.edu] On Behalf Of Andy
> Davidson
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:42 AM
> To: nanogmerit.edu
> Subject: OT: How to stop UltraDNS sales people calling
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am really fed up of calls from UltraDNS - we seem to
get them every
> few days.  We don't need their product.
>
> We've tried saying no, and additionally we've tried
putting people on
> hold indefinitely, trying to be enough of a nuisance to
drop off their
> sales call list (works with UK telcos - try it).
>
> I just had a guy on hold for 18 minutes before taking
him off hold to
> say that we didn't want their product, and could he
please stop calling.
>
> He told me he would still calling until he got through
to the right
> person.  I am the right person.
>
> In the interest of Anglo-American relationships - any
Neustar people on
> list willing to help ?
>
>

Just turn the sales call around and ask them if they want
dns and website
hosting 

Colin