shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)

> Right now, DDoS attacks from Botnets
> are bad enough. 

DDos!?!?!?
What about the $1 billion dollars of clickbot fraud that
the advertising industry is presently struggling with?
Has anyone ever put a figure on the cost of DDos per
year?

> Where is the IETF leadership?

Not on the NANOG list...

--Michael Dillon