198.32.0.0/16 - Disappeared...

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Paging Bill Manning...

Unfortunately, we've tried to reach Bill, as well as other
folks at
EP.NET to no avail, and this is impacting us quite
negatively.

[snip]

Not available in any routing tables I have access to or any
of the looking
glasses from http://www.na
nog.org/lookingglass.html.

this is significant because any in-addr blocks that are
authoritative 
flag.ep.net and dot.ep.net will now suffer from reverse name
resolution
issues. 

- From ATT route server:

route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13
% Network not in table


- From CerfNET route server:

route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13
% Network not in table


Allstream Toronto:

route-server.east>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13                  
      
% Network not in table

This has been a problem since yesterday evening. 

[snip]

FYI, some of our address space has been sub-allocated via
EP.net
and relies on it's reachability:

[DOMAIN whois information for EP.NET ]
   Domain Name: EP.NET
   Namespace: ICANN Unsponsored Generic TLD - http://www.icann.org
   TLD Info: See IANA Whois - http://www.ian
a.org/root-whois/net.htm
   Registry: VeriSign, Inc. - http://www.verisign-grs.c
om
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. - http://www.networksol
utions.com
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Name Server[whois+dns with ip] DOT.EP.NET 198.32.2.10
   Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: DOT.EP.NET
2001:478:6:0:230:48FF:FE22:6A29
   Name Server[whois+dns with ip] FLAG.EP.NET 198.32.4.13
   Updated Date: 11-Jan-2007
   Creation Date: 09-Dec-1994
   Expiration Date: 08-Dec-2012
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
[whois.networksolutions.com]
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The IP address from which you have visited the Network
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to abide by Network Solutions' WHOIS policy.  Failure to
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Whois Query: domain ep.net
YOUR IP address is 216.151.198.186
Date and Time of Query: Fri May 11 21:39:55 EDT 2007
Reason Code: CE
[whois.networksolutions.com]

Please contact me off-list is you have any inisght into
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Thanks,

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--
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 Engineering Architecture for the Internet
 fergdawg(at)netzero.net
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t.com/

FERGIE WROTE:
> PAGING BILL MANNING...
> 
> UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE TRIED TO REACH BILL, AS WELL AS
OTHER FOLKS AT
> EP.NET TO NO AVAIL, AND THIS IS IMPACTING US QUITE
NEGATIVELY.

CONGRATULATIONS, FINALLY, AFTER ALMOST A YEAR AFTER THE
SHUTDOWN AND
DEPRECATION OF THE 6BONE ADDRESS SPACE, RETURNING IT TO
IANA, ALL THE
6BONE PREFIXES ARE FINALLY GONE FROM THE IPV6 ROUTING TABLES
AT ALL
ISP'S PEERING WITH GRH (WHICH THUS MORE OR LESS GIVES A
GLOBAL IPV6 BGP
VIEW)

GRH.SIXXS.NET> SHOW BGP 3FFE::/16 LONGER-PREFIXES
GRH.SIXXS.NET>

(AKA NONE ;)

CHECKING HTTP://WWW.SIXXS.NET/TOOLS/GRH/DFP/6BONE/

PTLA:      3FFE::/24
COUNTRY:   US
NETNAME:   ROOT66/US-CA
ASN:       AS4555
ALLOCATED: 1997-08-14
LAST SEEN: 2007-05-10 12:17:22

PTLA:      3FFE:800::/24
COUNTRY:   US
NETNAME:   ISI-LAP/US-CA
ASN:       4555
ALLOCATED: 1997-08-14
LAST SEEN  2007-05-10 12:17:22

THANKS BILL FOR FINALLY(!) SHUTTING DOWN THE MACHINES THAT
YOU WHERE
STILL USING FOR ANNOUNCING THESE PREFIXES. THIS DEFINITELY
SHOWS THAT
EVERYBODY IS DONE EXPERIMENTING WITH IPV6, EXPECT FOR THE
UPCOMING GREAT
IPV6 EXPERIMENT OF COURSE ;)


FOR THE FOLKS STILL USING ONLY IPV4: REMEMBER THAT GEOFF
HUSTON AND TONY
HAIN HAVE NOW ALIGNED THEIR PROGNOSES FOR IPV4 ADDRESS
DEPLETION: 2009
IS THE NEW DATE, SO IF YOU ARE NOT DOING IPV6 YET, YOU
BETTER START
DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT, OR YOU WILL BE TOO LATE, AND
EVERYBODY WHO DID
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, IS GOING TO POINT AND LAUGH AT YOU
WHILE
RIDICULING YOU SAYING "WE TOLD YOU SO", WHICH IS
GOING TO BE QUITE A LOT
OF FUN 

GREETS,
 JEROEN

(ONLY PARTIALLY KIDDING, BUT IT WAS TIME THAT 6BONE ROUTES
FINALLY
DISAPPEARED, HE CAN RESURRECT THE REST OF EP.NET THOUGH)

Is it just me or is this happening again?  Re-paging 

Thanks
Chris

Fergie wrote:
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> 
> Paging Bill Manning...
> 
> Unfortunately, we've tried to reach Bill, as well as
other folks at
> EP.NET to no avail, and this is impacting us quite
negatively.
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Not available in any routing tables I have access to or
any of the looking
> glasses from http://www.na
nog.org/lookingglass.html.
> 
> this is significant because any in-addr blocks that are
authoritative 
> flag.ep.net and dot.ep.net will now suffer from reverse
name resolution
> issues. 
> 
> - From ATT route server:
> 
> route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13
> % Network not in table
> 
> 
> - From CerfNET route server:
> 
> route-server>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13
> % Network not in table
> 
> 
> Allstream Toronto:
> 
> route-server.east>sh ip bgp 198.32.4.13             
           
> % Network not in table
> 
> This has been a problem since yesterday evening. 
> 
> [snip]
> 
> FYI, some of our address space has been sub-allocated
via EP.net
> and relies on it's reachability:
> 
> [DOMAIN whois information for EP.NET ]
>    Domain Name: EP.NET
>    Namespace: ICANN Unsponsored Generic TLD - http://www.icann.org
>    TLD Info: See IANA Whois - http://www.ian
a.org/root-whois/net.htm
>    Registry: VeriSign, Inc. - http://www.verisign-grs.c
om
>    Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. - http://www.networksol
utions.com
>    Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
>    Name Server[whois+dns with ip] DOT.EP.NET
198.32.2.10
>    Name Server[from whois+dns, whois ip]: DOT.EP.NET
> 2001:478:6:0:230:48FF:FE22:6A29
>    Name Server[whois+dns with ip] FLAG.EP.NET
198.32.4.13
>    Updated Date: 11-Jan-2007
>    Creation Date: 09-Dec-1994
>    Expiration Date: 08-Dec-2012
>    Status: clientTransferProhibited
> [whois.networksolutions.com]
> Welcome to the Network Solutions Registrar WHOIS
Server.
> 
> The IP address from which you have visited the Network
Solutions Registrar
> WHOIS
> database is contained within a list of IP addresses
that may have failed
> to abide by Network Solutions' WHOIS policy.  Failure
to abide by this
> policy can
> adversely impact our systems and servers, preventing
the processing of
> other WHOIS requests.
> 
> To see the Network Solutions WHOIS Policy, click on or
copy and paste the
> following
> URL into your browser:
> 
> htt
p://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jhtml
> 
> If you feel that you have received this message in
error, please contact us
> at:
> whoisquerynetworksolutions.com and include the
following information:
> 
> Whois Query: domain ep.net
> YOUR IP address is 216.151.198.186
> Date and Time of Query: Fri May 11 21:39:55 EDT 2007
> Reason Code: CE
> [whois.networksolutions.com]
> 
> Please contact me off-list is you have any inisght into
this.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - - ferg
> 
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> --
> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
>  Engineering Architecture for the Internet
>  fergdawg(at)netzero.net
>  ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspo
t.com/
> 

-- 
Chris Griffin                           cgriffinufl.edu
Sr. Network Engineer - CCNP             Phone: (352)
273-1051
CNS - Network Services                  Fax:   (352)
392-9440
University of Florida/FLR               Gainesville, FL
32611

On 31-Aug-2007, at 0840, Chris Griffin wrote:

> Is it just me or is this happening again?  Re-paging


Since 198.32.0.0/16 is cut up and used by many, many
different people  
in many disconnected networks, it seems to me that the
absence of  
198.32.0.0/16 in the RIB is a feature, not a bug.

(And I'm fairly sure this was pointed out last time, too



Joe

However 198.32.2.10 and 198.32.4.13 (ep.net DNS) are not
covered by any 
active prefix right now, 198.32/16 or otherwise, so that is
a bug and 
not a feature   I am
not so concerned about 198.32/16 not showing up 
as I am that no other prefix which will handle those hosts
is either.

Thanks
Chris

Joe Abley wrote:
> 
> On 31-Aug-2007, at 0840, Chris Griffin wrote:
> 
>> Is it just me or is this happening again? 
Re-paging 
> 
> Since 198.32.0.0/16 is cut up and used by many, many
different people in 
> many disconnected networks, it seems to me that the
absence of 
> 198.32.0.0/16 in the RIB is a feature, not a bug.
> 
> (And I'm fairly sure this was pointed out last time,
too 
> 
> 
> Joe

-- 
Chris Griffin                           cgriffinufl.edu
Sr. Network Engineer - CCNP             Phone: (352)
273-1051
CNS - Network Services                  Fax:   (352)
392-9440
University of Florida/FLR               Gainesville, FL
32611

On 31-Aug-2007, at 0933, Chris Griffin wrote:

> However 198.32.2.10 and 198.32.4.13 (ep.net DNS) are
not covered by  
> any active prefix right now, 198.32/16 or otherwise, so
that is a  
> bug and not a feature   I am
not so concerned about 198.32/16  
> not showing up as I am that no other prefix which will
handle those  
> hosts is either.

A failure to reach ep.net's nameservers is presumably
something to be  
taken up with ep.net, though, not NANOG 

Looks like the failure was temporary:

route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip bgp regex _4555$
BGP table version is 213222472, local router ID is
198.32.162.100
Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid,
> best, i -  
internal,
               S Stale
Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete

    Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf
Weight Path
*  198.32.2.0       202.249.2.86                           0
7500  
2497 1239 4555 i
*                   207.172.6.20             5             0
6079  
3356 1239 4555 i
*                   209.10.12.160                          0
4513 701  
1239 4555 i
*                   65.106.7.139             3             0
2828  
1239 4555 i

(etc, etc)


Joe

* jableyca.afilias.info (Joe Abley) [Fri 31 Aug 2007, 16:10
CEST]:
> A failure to reach ep.net's nameservers is presumably
something to be 
> taken up with ep.net, though, not NANOG 

Huh.  flag.ep.net was renamed flag.ip4.int?

Given that the best I can find out about ip4.int is a very
brief and 
long-expired I-D from 1996, why is this domain still in the
root zone?

At least ip6.int. was actually used for a brief time...


	-- Niels.