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TWTC issue with Foundry routers?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-07-25 15:00:37
Anyone know of any changes that were made with TWTC (AS
4323)
last night that may have affected those running Foundry
routers?  We peer with a number of providers and last night
our TWTC connection went down with:


Jul 25 15:57:22:N:BGP Peer 1.2.3.49 DOWN (Attribute Flags
Error)
Jul 25 15:57:14:N:BGP Peer 1.2.3.49 UP (ESTABLISHED)

If I debug updates on that session I get:
(Lines added for readability)


Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE 142.166.102.0/24
Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE w/attr: Origin=IGP
AS_PATH=AS_SEQ(2) 4323 8881 8881 8881 30915
NextHop=1.2.3.49
COMMUNITY=4323:51 4323:501 4323:1003 4323:2001 4323:2503
4323:34510
4323:50000 65101:1003 65102:4 65103:1 65104:301 
Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE 193.27.220.0/23
Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE w/attr: Origin=IGP
AS_PATH=AS_SEQ(2) 4323 2828 19092 14188 14188 14188 14188
14188
NextHop=1.2.3.49 COMMUNITY=4323:51 4323:501 4323:1015
4323:2503
4323:36410 4323:50000 65101:1015 65102:4 65103:1 65104:301 
Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE 64.13.0.0/22


Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv invalid COMMUNITY
attribute flag d0


Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE w/attr: Origin=IGP
AS_PATH=AS_SEQ(2) 4323 12956 3352 NextHop=1.2.3.49
ATOMIC_AGGREGATE
AGGREGATOR AS=3352 Speaker=81.46.63.133 



The router is a Foundry NetIron 400 running their 7.8 code.
We have two of these talking to Level 3, TWTC, Cogent,
Uunet
and AT&T and only the TWTC had an issue.  They sent me
a
default route instead of full routes and the session came
up and was stable; go back to full routes and error.  They
admitted to me this afternoon that three other customers
are
having the same issue.  That's when we started wondering if
they changed something that the Foundry code doesn't like.
Interesting though is that they claim to not be sending me
communities while the output above indicates they are.

Any ideas; be nice to get the link back up. 

Thanks,

David

Re: TWTC issue with Foundry routers?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-07-26 10:02:54
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As a Foundry user utilizing Communities this caught my
eye...I found a
similar post to Nanog last year that pointed me in the right
direction
on this I think. It seems the author of that post seems to
have hit the
nail on th head.

Your debugging shows
Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv invalid COMMUNITY
attribute flag d0

Decoded, the Attribute flag 'd0' means the attribute is:
Optional,
transitive, and extended (greater than 255 octets)

It seems when the FI400 receives the 'd0' flag stating that
the next
update has an extended attribute field, it borks.

I'd guess this due to a large amount of Communities attached
to that
prefix for whatever reason. Though I suppose the upstream
router could
be at fault for flagging 'd0' and then sending a _non_
extended
attribute. Its hard to tell.

One would assume that the FI400 should merely discard that
update rather
than take the session down, but I need to read more into the
RFC to know
for sure.

Sorry I don't have a definitive answer, but you might ask
TWTC to
_actually_ not send you communities and see if it goes away.

Either
way it seems a call to Foundry TAC is in order as this is
unacceptable
behavior.

Original Post from 2006:
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2006-04/m
sg00034.html

/Ryan

David Hubbard wrote:
> Anyone know of any changes that were made with TWTC (AS
4323)
> last night that may have affected those running
Foundry
> routers?  We peer with a number of providers and last
night
> our TWTC connection went down with:
> 
> 
> Jul 25 15:57:22:N:BGP Peer 1.2.3.49 DOWN (Attribute
Flags Error)
> Jul 25 15:57:14:N:BGP Peer 1.2.3.49 UP (ESTABLISHED)
> 
> If I debug updates on that session I get:
> (Lines added for readability)
> 
> 
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE
142.166.102.0/24
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE w/attr:
Origin=IGP
> AS_PATH=AS_SEQ(2) 4323 8881 8881 8881 30915
NextHop=1.2.3.49
> COMMUNITY=4323:51 4323:501 4323:1003 4323:2001
4323:2503 4323:34510
> 4323:50000 65101:1003 65102:4 65103:1 65104:301 
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE
193.27.220.0/23
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE w/attr:
Origin=IGP
> AS_PATH=AS_SEQ(2) 4323 2828 19092 14188 14188 14188
14188 14188
> NextHop=1.2.3.49 COMMUNITY=4323:51 4323:501 4323:1015
4323:2503
> 4323:36410 4323:50000 65101:1015 65102:4 65103:1
65104:301 
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE 64.13.0.0/22
> 
> 
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv invalid COMMUNITY
attribute flag d0
> 
> 
> Jul 25 15:57:21 BGP: 1.2.3.49 rcv UPDATE w/attr:
Origin=IGP
> AS_PATH=AS_SEQ(2) 4323 12956 3352 NextHop=1.2.3.49
ATOMIC_AGGREGATE
> AGGREGATOR AS=3352 Speaker=81.46.63.133 
> 
> 
> 
> The router is a Foundry NetIron 400 running their 7.8
code.
> We have two of these talking to Level 3, TWTC, Cogent,
Uunet
> and AT&T and only the TWTC had an issue.  They sent
me a
> default route instead of full routes and the session
came
> up and was stable; go back to full routes and error. 
They
> admitted to me this afternoon that three other
customers are
> having the same issue.  That's when we started
wondering if
> they changed something that the Foundry code doesn't
like.
> Interesting though is that they claim to not be sending
me
> communities while the output above indicates they are.
> 
> Any ideas; be nice to get the link back up. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David

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AW: TWTC issue with Foundry routers?
country flaguser name
Germany
2007-07-26 10:21:31
Hello Ryan,

There was a bug in one of the elder firmwares that caused
bgp-sessions to be
reset when prefixes with more than 4 or maybe 6 communities
were received. 
You should update your firmware - I think this issue has
been resolved a long
while ago. You can also check the
foundry-nsp-list/archives.

Best regards,
Gunther

 


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