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Cogent issues in SF area?
user name
2007-09-28 13:39:25
Anyone else seeing it?

BGP_Level3>traceroute 208.70.27.35

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35

  1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
  3 4.68.18.5 [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
  4 4.68.110.138 [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
  5 154.54.6.81 [AS 174] 4 msec *  0 msec
  6 154.54.6.133 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  7 154.54.24.38 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
  8  *  *  *
  9  *  *  *

Bah!

-Mike

Re: Cogent issues in SF area?
user name
2007-09-28 14:36:39
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Mike Lyon wrote:
> Anyone else seeing it?
> 
> BGP_Level3>traceroute 208.70.27.35
> 
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35
> 
>   1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
>   2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
>   3 4.68.18.5 [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
>   4 4.68.110.138 [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
>   5 154.54.6.81 [AS 174] 4 msec *  0 msec
>   6 154.54.6.133 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
>   7 154.54.24.38 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
>   8  *  *  *
>   9  *  *  *

Ok getting there from Cogent in Denver:

[rootcsmdv ~]# traceroute 208.70.27.35
traceroute to 208.70.27.35 (208.70.27.35), 30 hops max, 46
byte packets
 1  10.10.1.254 (10.10.1.254)  0.304 ms  0.157 ms  0.143 ms
 2  ai-core (38.116.133.1)  0.548 ms  0.451 ms  0.424 ms
 3  f0-2.na01.b009854-0.den01.atlas.cogentco.com
(38.112.6.145)  0.944
ms  1.346 ms  0.692 ms
 4  g0-3.core01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.10.217) 
0.929 ms
0.813 ms  1.131 ms
 5  t3-1.mpd01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.5.30)  1.156
ms  0.770
ms  1.295 ms
 6  t7-2.mpd02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.34) 
24.828 ms  24.632
ms  24.537 ms
 7  t3-4.ccr01.sfo05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.24.38) 
25.055 ms
24.444 ms  24.387 ms
 8  207.241.239.146 (207.241.239.146)  24.749 ms  24.791 ms 
24.385 ms
 9  ia700743.eg.archive.org (208.70.27.35)  25.234 ms 
25.478 ms  25.202 ms

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Re: Cogent issues in SF area?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-28 14:39:44

We're seeing very poor performance on Cogent in Chicago to major sites such as CNN and Salon. Traceroutes indicate packets dropping inside Cogent's network and at their handoff to at atdn.net. Opened a ticket with Cogent around 10am Central, haven't heard from anybody since.

Not necessarily related to your problem, but maybe another data point.

Carl Hirsch



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Anyone else seeing it?

BGP_Level3&gt;traceroute 208.70.27.35

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35

 1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
 2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
 3 4.68.18.5 [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
 4 4.68.110.138 [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
 5 154.54.6.81 [AS 174] 4 msec *  0 msec
 6 154.54.6.133 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
 7 154.54.24.38 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
 8  *  *  *
 9  *  *  *

Bah!

-Mike

Re: Cogent issues in SF area?
user name
2007-09-28 14:45:18
CNN and www.archive.org were the two sites I couldn';t get to...

-Mike

On 9/28/07, CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com"> CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com < CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com">CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com> wrote:

We're seeing very poor performance on Cogent in Chicago to major sites such as CNN and Salon. Traceroutes indicate packets dropping inside Cogent';s network and at their handoff to at atdn.net. Opened a ticket with Cogent around 10am Central, haven't heard from anybody since.

Not necessarily related to your problem, but maybe another data point.

Carl Hirsch



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Anyone else seeing it?

BGP_Level3&gt;traceroute 208.70.27.35

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35

 1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
 2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
 3 4.68.18.5 [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
 4 4.68.110.138 [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
 5 154.54.6.81 [AS 174] 4 msec *  0 msec
 6 154.54.6.133 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
 7 154.54.24.38 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
 8  *  *  *
 9  *  *  *

Bah!

-Mike


RE: Cogent issues in SF area?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-28 14:49:59
Maybe they depeered themselves.  They seem to be on a roll!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanogmerit.edu [mailto:owner-nanogmerit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Mike Lyon
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:39 PM
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Cogent issues in SF area?
> 
> 
> Anyone else seeing it?
> 
> BGP_Level3>traceroute 208.70.27.35
> 
> Type escape sequence to abort.
> Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35
> 
>   1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
>   2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
>   3 4.68.18.5 [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
>   4 4.68.110.138 [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
>   5 154.54.6.81 [AS 174] 4 msec *  0 msec
>   6 154.54.6.133 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
>   7 154.54.24.38 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
>   8  *  *  *
>   9  *  *  *
> 
> Bah!
> 
> -Mike


RE: Cogent issues in SF area?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-28 16:08:38

http://www.e-gerbil.net/cogent-t1r looks like they're playing the depeering games again.

 
E
 


From: owner-nanogmerit.edu [mailto:owner-nanogmerit.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Lyon
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 3:45 PM
To: CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Cogent issues in SF area?

CNN and www.archive.org were the two sites I couldn't get to...

-Mike

On 9/28/07, sargentlundy.com">CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com <sargentlundy.com">CARL.P.HIRSCHsargentlundy.com> wrote:

We're seeing very poor performance on Cogent in Chicago to major sites such as CNN and Salon. Traceroutes indicate packets dropping inside Cogent's network and at their handoff to at atdn.net. Opened a ticket with Cogent around 10am Central, haven't heard from anybody since.

Not necessarily related to your problem, but maybe another data point.

Carl Hirsch



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Anyone else seeing it?

BGP_Level3>traceroute 208.70.27.35

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 208.70.27.35

 1 4.79.220.77 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
 ;2 4.68.123.30 [AS 3356] 8 msec 0 msec 4 msec
 ;3 4.68.18.5 [AS 3356] 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
 ;4 4.68.110.138 [AS 3356] 4 msec 0 msec 4 msec
 ;5 154.54.6.81 [AS 174] 4 msec *  0 msec
 ;6 154.54.6.133 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
 ;7 154.54.24.38 [AS 174] 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
 ;8  *  *  *
&nbsp;9  *  *  *

Bah!

-Mike


Re: Cogent issues in SF area?
user name
2007-09-28 17:05:37
No problem here...

computer:~ hexstar$ traceroute 208.70.27.35
traceroute to 208.70.27.35 (208.70.27.35), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1&nbsp; 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1)  2.672 ms  1.937 ms  1.730 ms
 2  * * *
 3&nbsp; ge-2-8-ur01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net (68.86.249.113 11.590 ms  11.371 ms  15.132 ms
 4  te0-7-0-4-ar01.oakland.ca.sfba.comcast.net ( 68.86.90.146; 18.551 ms  12.220 ms  13.409 ms
 5  68.86.85.77 (68.86.85.77)  14.655 ms  15.077 ms  14.305 ms
 6  comcast-ip.car2.sanjose1.level3.net (4.79.43.134)  18.156 ms  16.841 ms  16.973 ms
 7  te-4-4.car2.sanjose1.level3.net ( 4.79.43.133 16.951 ms  16.932 ms  16.473 ms
 8  ae-33-89.car3.sanjose1.level3.net (4.68.18.133)  21.731 ms  23.819 ms  17.007 ms
 9  cogent-comm.car3.sanjose1.level3.net (4.68.110.138)  18.566 ms  18.726 ms  19.115 ms
10 ; v3499.mpd01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.6.237)  26.997 ms  32.775 ms  28.556 ms
11 ; t7-1.mpd02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.53)  28.941 ms  31.305 ms  31.928 ms
12 ; t3-4.ccr01.sfo05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.24.38 ; 27.725 ms  31.943 ms  27.018 ms
13 ; 207.241.239.163 (207.241.239.163)&nbsp; 31.519 ms  28.896 ms  28.454 ms
14 ; 208.70.27.35 (208.70.27.35)  29.631 ms  28.457 ms  28.165 ms
RE: Cogent issues in SF area?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-29 11:54:17
> 
> Maybe they depeered themselves.  They seem to be on a
roll!

It's quite ironic and they (Cogent) are quite contradicting
themselves.
When their CEO, Dave Schaffer comes out to media and bashes
Level3, France
Telecom, AOL, etc (the list goes on), citing "Cogent is
being unfairly
treated", each and every time Cogent gets depeered, you
would think Cogent
would be the last network to be the one pulling jack moves.

Now it seems Cogent is the one that's unfairly treating
their peers, the
table has been turned around.  

Time to buy some ATDN transit just to reach Cogent, eh? I'm
sure they'll get
a kick out of this one 

james




Re: Cogent issues in SF area?
country flaguser name
United States
2007-09-29 11:59:28
> It's quite ironic and they (Cogent) are quite
contradicting themselves.
> When their CEO, Dave Schaffer comes out to media and
bashes Level3, France
> Telecom, AOL, etc (the list goes on), citing
"Cogent is being unfairly
> treated", each and every time Cogent gets
depeered, you would think Cogent
> would be the last network to be the one pulling jack
moves.

what we see in others is oft a reflection of our own
thoughts

randy


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